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Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona

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Re: Discord cuts ties with identity verification software, Persona

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Post by navbaker »

john_strinlai wrote: post #8

> Nearly 2,500 accessible files were found sitting on a U.S. government-authorized endpoint, researchers pointed out on X. The files showed Persona conducted facial recognition checks against watchlists and screened users against lists of politically exposed persons. > Persona performs 269 distinct verification checks, including screening for “adverse media” im sure everyone assumed this, but its good to know it. > A…

That last quote, buried at the end of the article, absolutely killed me. I cannot believe he had the nerve to say that doing what he does everyday

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Post by literallyroy »

aylmao wrote: post #173

For anyone interested, they published the post-mortem of the referenced incident: https://withpersona.com/blog/post-incident-review-source-map...

Thanks. I was curious if someone was going to address the weird use of “CATASTROPHIC” to describe source maps being available for front-end code. It’s already public. Minified is better for the regular user, and should be in production, but it’s like by far the least problematic thing in this article.

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Post by vultour »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #234
shevy-java wrote: post #142

I am not convinced. Teter Piel (don't want to use the other name) kind of purchased a LOT of influence power via lobbyists. One lobbyist is Sebastian Lurz (also not going to use the real name here; the letter "l" is an in-country humourous take on Lüssel, Lasser and so forth - ex-politicians). The superrich buy influence and worsen the situation for the rest of us. This has to stop. The USA is currently under direct…

What is he? Voldemort?

Considering the things he is directly responsible for, he might as well be.

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Post by trinsic2 »

n8cpdx wrote: post #75
rocketpastsix wrote: post #44

the damage is already done though. Discord just burned years of goodwill and trust. Im in a few discord communities and while they aren't moving Im not looking to join any more right now because of this whole thing.

Can someone explain to me how Discord got so big in the first place, particularly for non-gaming uses? I saw this coming a mile away when folks started ditching slack for Discord - Slack being problematic because a) it was profit-seeking and would use its leverage over your personal data to seek rent and b) it was antithetical to the open web. Discord has the exact same two issues so was obviously not a solution. Why…

Yeah I was concerned back when it first started rolling out. Years later the gaming community embraced like it was the second coming of Christ. Nobody looks at the people and organization supporting these platforms. If I remember correctly, wasnt funded by major conglomerates in the entertainment industry?

I guess thats changing though, I see Youtubers all over the place now watching these things like a hawk. Referring to the Highguard scandal.

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Post by mikestorrent »

amingilani wrote: post #165
rogerrogerr wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This refusal to use people’s names comes across as childish and distracts from your intended point.

To me it feels pragmatic. I find it more concerning that mass surveillance has come to the point where someone can’t safely express their frankly-not-that-controversial opinions without obfuscating the subject’s name.

I'm happy to name Peter Thiel in a comment here. What's he going to do, come and drip forehead sweat at me?

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Post by amingilani »

rogerrogerr wrote: post #170
amingilani wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me it feels pragmatic. I find it more concerning that mass surveillance has come to the point where someone can’t safely express their frankly-not-that-controversial opinions without obfuscating the subject’s name.

So you think that the state has massive surveillance systems (definitely) that it is willing to use maliciously (maybe), but in the age of LLMs is fooled by swapping some letters around? Seems like the threat model is unlikely to line up with reality.

I didn’t say it was state sponsored mass surveillance, nor did I say the method of obfuscation was good.

Just that it’s a pragmatic approach (no matter how flawed in practice) and concerning that it needs to be done.

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Post by gib444 »

trinsic2 wrote: post #288
gib444 wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a useful deterrent against defenders (actual or bots) coming and drowning people out

That is a good idea. Yeah I often wonder if people that actually are not apart of this community just troll by searches.

I'm sure there are whole companies that do that kind of "reputation management". Modern tech savvy PR firms etc

I personally experienced it when criticising (turns out quite rightly) the HS2 rail project. The difference in replies on Reddit whether I wrote HS2 or eg |-|S2 or H/S/2 was stark

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Post by Larrikin »

john_strinlai wrote: post #285
rezonant wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use your main account to post this, unless you mean it was submitted less than 4 days ago when your account was created? Genuinely curious what benefit a fresh account gives you here?

> unless you mean it was submitted less than 4 days ago maybe you are unaware, but you can browse HN without an account, and you can browse previous submissions (years back, even!). its not like i can only see posts made in the last 4 days. second, i saw the original post because it was posted in this very comment chain we are on, 5 hours ago, by bondarchuk ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47137961 ). my turn!…

>not the age of my account.

Sounds like you're practicing creating AI bots and have modeled the personality after the other rogue ones.

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Post by axus »

simianwords wrote: post #221
axus wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So far prices have generally gone up, which indicates the pie available is scarcer. I am looking forward to the day where more electricity, electronics, food, and housing are produced thanks to AI; but in the mid-term it feels like an AI bubble pop would do more to bring the price back down.

Qualitatively, I now have access to ChatGPT. How much do you think you would have paid for such a tool in 2010? and we are getting it almost for free.

While ChatGPT is a partial substitution for a college education, it doesn't satisfy the other needs I listed. I do think in the long term we'll get there, but the current situation matters.

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Post by john_strinlai »

Larrikin wrote: post #298
john_strinlai wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> unless you mean it was submitted less than 4 days ago maybe you are unaware, but you can browse HN without an account, and you can browse previous submissions (years back, even!). its not like i can only see posts made in the last 4 days. second, i saw the original post because it was posted in this very comment chain we are on, 5 hours ago, by bondarchuk ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47137961 ). my turn!…

>not the age of my account. Sounds like you're practicing creating AI bots and have modeled the personality after the other rogue ones.

amazing comment from a 13 year old account. really embodying the spirit of the HN guidelines. thanks for the warm welcome.

so, what exactly, are you basing your accusation on?

was it me saying "use noscript and reader mode" or maybe "people have different opinions"? or just by nature of having created an account after you created yours?

this sort of accusation is what will drive HN to be a shit community to participate in. just accuse anyone you slightly disagree with as being a bot/ai

im not even sure what your issue, or rezonants issue with me even is! all i said was different people have different opinions, and you two are crawling up my ass about it. lets hope we never have to talk to each other about anything slightly important.

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