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they probably also acknowledge pytorch, numpy, R ... but we don't attribute those tools as the agent who did the work. I know we've been primed by sci-fi movies and comic books, but like pytorch, gpt-5.2 is just a piece of software running on a computer instrumented by humans.
I don't see the authors of those libraries getting a credit on the paper, do you ? >I know we've been primed by sci-fi movies and comic books, but like pytorch, gpt-5.2 is just a piece of software running on a computer instrumented by humans. Sure
GPT-5.2 derives a new result in theoretical physics
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It's easy to fall into a negative mindset when there are legions of pointy haired bosses and bandwagoning CEOs who (wrongly) point at breakthroughs like this as justification for AI mandates or layoffs.
What does "pointy haired" mean? (Presumably not literally?)
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I feel for you because you kinda got baited into this by the language in the first couple comments. But whatever’s going on in your comment is so emotional that it’s hard to tell what you’re asking for that you haven’t been able to read already, tl;dr proof stuck at n=4 for years is now for arbitrary n
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You probably don’t know what you’re talking about.
Why wasn't the C compiler it made impressive to you?
Yes, the bear is definitely dancing.
But a few feet away there's a world-class step dancer doing intricate rhythms they've perfected over twenty years of hard work.
The bear's kind of shuffling along to the beat like a stoner in a club.
It's amazing it can do it at all... but the resulting compiler is not actually good enough to be worth using.
Re: GPT-5.2 derives a new result in theoretical physics
#295The headline may make it seem like AI just discovered some new result in physics all on its own, but reading the post, humans started off trying to solve some problem, it got complex, GPT simplified it and found a solution with the simpler representation. It took 12 hours for GPT pro to do this. In my experience LLM’s can make new things when they are some linear combination of existing things but I haven’t been to g…
> but I haven’t been to get them to do something totally out of distribution yet from first principles Can humans actually do that? Sometimes it appears as if we have made a completely new discovery. However, if you look more closely, you will find that many events and developments led up to this breakthrough, and that it is actually an improvement on something that already existed. We are always building on the shou…
These have been identified as various things. Eureka moments, strokes of genius, out of the box thinking, lateral thinking.
LLMs have not shown to be capable of this. They might be in the future, but they havent yet
Re: GPT-5.2 derives a new result in theoretical physics
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Why wasn't the C compiler it made impressive to you?
I found this was the least impressive bit about it https://github.com/anthropics/claudes-c-compiler/issues/1
So, I just skimmed the discussion thread, but I am not seeing how this shows that CCC is not impressive. Is the point you're making that the person who opened the issue is not impressive?
Re: GPT-5.2 derives a new result in theoretical physics
#297Any reason to believe that public versions of GPT-5.2 could have accomplished this task? "scaffolded" is a very interesting word choice
Re: GPT-5.2 derives a new result in theoretical physics
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Why wasn't the C compiler it made impressive to you?
Like everything genAI, it was amazing yet surprisingly crappy. Yes, the bear is definitely dancing. But a few feet away there's a world-class step dancer doing intricate rhythms they've perfected over twenty years of hard work. The bear's kind of shuffling along to the beat like a stoner in a club. It's amazing it can do it at all... but the resulting compiler is not actually good enough to be worth using.
No one has made that assertion; however, the fact that it can create a functioning C compiler with minimal oversight is the impressive part, and it shows a path to autonomous GenAI use in software development.
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I am not a scientific historian, or even a physicist, but IMO relativity has a weak case for being a completely novel discovery. Critique of absolute time and space of Newtonian physics was already well underway, and much of the methodology for exploring this relativity (by way of gyroscopes, inertial reference frames, and synchronized mechanical clocks) were already in parlance. Many of the phenomena that relativity…
At least Einstein didn't just suddenly turn around and say: ```ai-slop But wait, this equation is too simple, I need to add more terms or it won't model the universe. Let me think about this again. I have 5 equations and I combined them and derived e=mc^2 but this is too simple. The universe is more complicated. Let's try a different derivation. I'll delete the wrong outputs first and then start from the input equati…
Re: GPT-5.2 derives a new result in theoretical physics
#300It's interesting to me that whenever a new breakthrough in AI use comes up, there's always a flood of people who come in to handwave away why this isn't actually a win for LLMs. Like with the novel solutions GPT 5.2 has been able to find for erdos problems - many users here (even in this very thread!) think they know more about this than Fields medalist Terence Tao, who maintains this list showing that, yes, LLMs hav…
The thing about spin and AI hype (besides being trivially easy to write) is that is isn't even trying to be objective. It would help if a lot of these articles would more carefully lay out what is actually surprising, and what is not, given current tech and knowledge.
Only a fool would think we aren't potentially on the verge of something truly revolutionary here. But only a fool would also be certain that the revolution has already happened, or that e.g. AGI is necessarily imminent.
The reason HN has value is because you can actually see some specifics of the matter discussed, and, if you are lucky, an expert even might join in to qualify everything. But pointing out "how interesting that there are extremes to this" is just engagement bait.