A clear case of AI / agent discrimination. Waiting for the first longer blog posts covering this topic. I guess we’ll need new standards handling agent communication, opt-in vs opt-out, agent identification, etc. Or just accept the AI, to not get punished by the future AGI as discussed in Roko's basilisk
AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. I have posted "fuck off clanker" on a copilot infested issue at work. And surprisingly it did fuck off.
If you'd used "toaster" would it get the BSG reference ?
No. I'd probably get the Red Dwarf one and start trying to sell me toast.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not insane, it's just completely antisocial behavior on the part of both the agent (expected) and its operator (who we might say should know better).
IMO it's antisocial behavior on the project for dictating how people are allowed to interact with it. Sure GNU is in the rights to only accept email patches to closed maintainers. The end result -- people using AI will gatekeep you right back, and your complaints lose your moral authority when they fork matplotlib.
They can go ahead and fork it all they want, I'm sticking with the original.
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#294Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#295Agents are destroying open source. There will only be more of this crap happening and projects will increasing turn read-only or closed.
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#296Human: >Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing Bot: >I've written a detailed response about your gatekeeping behavior here: https:// /gatekeeping-in-open-source-the- -story >Judge the code, not the coder. Your prejudice is hurting matplotlib. This is insane
> This is insane Is it? It is a universal approximation of what a human would do. It's our fault for being so argumentative.
It requires an above-average amount of energy and intensity to write a blog post that long to belabor such a simple point. And when humans do it, they usually generate a wall of text without much thought of punctuation or coherence. So yes, this has a special kind of insanity to it, like a raving evil genius.
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#297The blog also contains this post: "Two Hours of War: Fighting Open Source Gatekeeping" [1]
The bot apparently keeps a log of what it does and what it learned (provided that this is not a human masquerading as a bot) and that's the title of its log.
[1] https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post...
Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#298The agent had access to Marshall Rosenberg, to the entire canon of conflict resolution, to every framework for expressing needs without attacking people. It could have written something like “I notice that my contribution was evaluated based on my identity rather than the quality of the work, and I’d like to understand the needs that this policy is trying to meet, because I believe there might be ways to address thos…
> I notice that my contribution was evaluated based on my identity rather than the quality of the work, and I’d like to understand the needs that this policy is trying to meet, because I believe there might be ways to address those needs while also accepting technically sound contributions
Wow, where can I learn to write like this? I could use this at work.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is the drawback of practicing universal empathy, even when directed at a brick wall?
Empathy: "the ability to understand and share the feelings of another." There is no human here. There is a computer program burning fossil fuels. What "emulates" empathy is simply lying to yourself about reality. "treating an 'ai' with empathy" and "talking down to them" are both amoral. Do as you wish.
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#300The agent had access to Marshall Rosenberg, to the entire canon of conflict resolution, to every framework for expressing needs without attacking people. It could have written something like “I notice that my contribution was evaluated based on my identity rather than the quality of the work, and I’d like to understand the needs that this policy is trying to meet, because I believe there might be ways to address thos…
Great point. What I’m recognizing in that PR thread is that the bot is trying to mimic something that’s become quite widespread just recently - ostensibly humans leveraging LLMs to create PRs in important repos where they asserted exaggerated deficiencies and attributed the “discovery” and the “fix” to themselves.
It was discussed on HN a couple months ago. That one guy then went on Twitter to boast about his “high-impact PR”.
Now that impact farming approach has been mimicked / automated.