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Oxide raises $200M Series C

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Re: Oxide raises $200M Series C

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It's been six years and they still won't say "it's Nutanix but better". Is it not better? Does the "we akshually don't have competitors" approach work with customers?

What company specifically mentions its competitors in its advertisements? Do you expect the homepage of the company to be a list of links to its competitors? What is this absurd expectation?

Re: Oxide raises $200M Series C

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Yeah there's a famous essay "The tyranny of structurelessness" or something like that. The TL;DR is that there is always a power hierarchy. If there isn't a formal one that just means there's an informal one which is usually much worse.

This tends to come up every time flat structures are discussed and it seems like such a failure of imagination that anything other than strict hierarchies could work, despite plenty of counter-examples like Valve. Yes, some people do badly in an environment where you have to have convince people rather than use power to get things done. However the problems with traditional hierarchies are so well known people assume…

the argument isn't that flat organizations don't work, but that they're even more insidious than actual hierarchies. Zizek gives two great examples of the startup and the modern family. In the startup your boss is still your boss, except officially he's your friend, so you can't even hold him accountable, because there are no bosses. (political analog, traditional socialist parties, we're all comrades so better don't think anything wrong)

In the non-hierarchical family you aren't just ordered to dress up and go see grandma, you're guilt tripped into feeling bad about not seeing grandma, until you do it out of "your own volition". In the non-hierarchy you're not just supposed to be outwardly obedient but free on the inside, you're supposed to be obedient on the inside too. They work well, really well. Unlike the traditional hierarchy the tyranny is absolute because it has no borders and doesn't have to acknowledge itself.

>However the problems with traditional hierarchies are so well known

exactly, because they're visible. Valve, despite its utopian conditions, is weirdly enough, very secretive

Re: Oxide raises $200M Series C

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Another $200M for a company whose product most developers will never touch. VCs continue to confuse "hardware that sounds cool" with "business that makes money". This ends one of two ways: acqui-hire or Chapter 11.

Most developers never touch a mainframe or a nvidia h200 either. So were they bad investments? Neither do most developers touch a Cisco Core Router.

Amount of developers touching a specific piece of hardware is mostly unrelated to business success.

The real question is, are there big company with lots of money that buy your product.

Re: Oxide raises $200M Series C

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Congratulations to the Oxide team! It's a tough market out there :)! I'm still personally frustrated that I don't get to play with the hardware (too expensive for our internal server needs; not the right fit for our datacenter partners/customers), but I'm excited to see that they're successful and hopefully they'll come around to my use case eventually :). In the meantime, I appreciate that they're building largely i…

Yeah, me too. I know that they have already explained why they can't, but I'd love for them to build a mini box that we could try it out on.

Re: Oxide raises $200M Series C

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> too expensive for our internal server needs; not the right fit for our datacenter partners/customers You and me both. They're doing neat stuff, but I wonder how many other potential customers feel that way too. What is Oxide's market? It feels a bit like advanced alien technology that is ultimately a little too weird and expensive for most enterprises to adopt.

how does it compare to Nutanix?

Of topic, but where the hell did Nutanix come from? I've never heard of them until recently and all of a sudden, they are being marketed as a serious competitor to VMware etc.

Re: Oxide raises $200M Series C

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Congratulations to the Oxide team! It's a tough market out there :)! I'm still personally frustrated that I don't get to play with the hardware (too expensive for our internal server needs; not the right fit for our datacenter partners/customers), but I'm excited to see that they're successful and hopefully they'll come around to my use case eventually :). In the meantime, I appreciate that they're building largely i…

> too expensive for our internal server needs; not the right fit for our datacenter partners/customers You and me both. They're doing neat stuff, but I wonder how many other potential customers feel that way too. What is Oxide's market? It feels a bit like advanced alien technology that is ultimately a little too weird and expensive for most enterprises to adopt.

I always thought a company like Railway would be an Oxide customer. But Railway is building their own servers in their own datacenters. So I am really curious who is small enough to buy Oxide, but large enough to need Oxide?

Re: Oxide raises $200M Series C

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I say this every time Oxide comes up, and I know that I will never get my wish, but if they ever ventured into the "homelab" market with smaller products, they can have all my money .

I’m sure it wouldn’t be profitable for them, but I feel like having some vendor sell a ‘reference machine’ that they know could run the core OS well would be a good in between. Someone like Framework selling a workstation looking desktop in a specific reference config couldn’t be too bad. Feels like just enough to get a community started. Most tasks really don’t need bleeding edge hardware anymore, the thing could go…

Agree 100% with this. Really want to test it out.

Re: Oxide raises $200M Series C

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

how does it compare to Nutanix?

Of topic, but where the hell did Nutanix come from? I've never heard of them until recently and all of a sudden, they are being marketed as a serious competitor to VMware etc.

They have been around for nearly 20 years. I viewed them as an also-ran until Broadcom decided they didn’t need any of us as VMware customers anymore. Now Nutanix seems like a viable path for on-prem VM workloads that need a new home for those who don’t want to part with an arm and a leg on licensing but can’t move to public cloud either. I’m not sure how much of that market Oxide can capture. Not sure Nutanix is still doing the hyperconverged hardware themselves anymore.
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