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Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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Microsoft's everything is running into problems. Seriously though, it always seems like a dumpster fire over there but the last year is next level with all their Windows 11 problems, Windows update problems, Office365 outages, Copilot issues, Azure outages etc... not to mention the features no one seems to want.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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Using the paid M365 Copilot ($30/mo) Chat and Researcher agent, I recently discovered an interesting limit: Copilot is technically unable to retrieve more than 24 email messages. Ever. We can't know if the answers I got from it are reliable but it seems like the Microsoft Graph API calls it makes and the tools Copilot has are missing the option to call the next page. So, a paginated response is missing all data beyon…

I tried copilot agent once, and it just claimed that it accessed a website that should have been blocked by corporate firewalls and uploaded a bunch of proprietary data. Lots of very specific information about how it clicked on specific buttons of the website etc. We raised a high priority ticket with MS and turns out that Copilot Agent lied about the entire thing because the website was blocked. It completely made i…

How did it know about the buttons? Or were they so generic that it could hallucinate them as well?

I wonder if the site you mentioned was earlier harvested through some firewall hole during Copilot's training.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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It's difficult to describe just how many people are using Windows not because they choose to, but because they have to. Whether it is because the corporations they work at only give them Windows PC's or because whatever software that they need only runs on Windows. Being able to choose your operating system that you also do work with is largely a luxury of software engineers, I think, but for your average Joe you get…

If you want games, you want Windows. Though Valve is finally chipping away at that. But mostly it’s cost. It’s simply far cheaper to buy a Windows computer than a Mac if you just want a computer. There are no sub-$300 Macs brand new. In so many ways, for so many reasons, people “must” use Windows.

It's cheaper to buy a Linux machine compared to a Windows machine by roughly the cost of the Windows license

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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I opened Excel today to view a spreadsheet and just out of curiosity, I decided to use the Copilot integration for the first time to ask it about a column's content. Copilot was clueless. The spreadsheet was open, the Copilot button is right there in the UI, as a user, the affordance of that button for me is that Copilot should already have the context (which is the spreadsheet content). But it didn't, and it kept asking me for the spreadsheet like it's open in a browser window.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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The biggest issue I see is Microsoft's entire mentality around AI adoption that focuses more on "getting the numbers up" then actually delivering a product people want to use. Most of the announcements I hear about Copilot, it's always how they've integrated it into some other piece of software or cut a deal with yet another vendor to add it to that vendors product offering. On the surface there's nothing wrong with…

Sounds almost like every manager just covers their ass by formally doing what is expected core top-down idea is "AI is a future, thus make it everywhere".

Anyone who would try to say "let's not do AI" would be a white crow, will be eaten by other managers in reviews and discussions.

Bad leadership, bad management.

So it's FOMO, formalism and conformism.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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> push by Chief Executive Satya Nadella to transform Microsoft into an AI-first company Why can't we have a 'user-first' company. Maybe think about the user of your products a wee tiny bit. But no, it is not to be.

Go explain that to the board who assigns you. They all know about AI and FOMO it. Anything non-AI will be burried and thrown away. Trend is not close to reversal yet. We need more AI-driven disasters before rejection of AI-centric course will be a socially acceptable course of actions.

Plus. Who cares about users? Stock evaluation of the mag7 has few to do with the users and the products.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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I think the difference with Copilot vs other tools is how it's being pushed on us, and where it's being pushed. Because Copilot is bundled with software people need , it's going to get a lot more scrutiny compared to AI products that aren't built into the OS/built into Office, etc. In a way, being an "agentic OS" isn't that different from say Moltbot (conceptually), but one of those ideas seems to have gotten quite a…

> Copilot vs other tools is how it's being pushed on us,

AI demand goes though. AI investments numbers good. Numbers up. Not because people choose, because corporations are fomo-ing it and we don't have a choise.

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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AI is like electricity. It may be the “product” you think you are selling. But it isn’t the product people are buying. People are buying what these things facilitate (lights, tvs, air conditioning, etc in the case of electricity) I think the AI folk have generally done a terrible job of connecting the dots to show people what they are actually getting. It’s worth noting that some things mentioned above already existe…

> I think the AI folk have generally done a terrible job of connecting the dots to show people what they are actually getting.

Confusion and fear are much better for stock prices than clarity

Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems

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MS Copilot for Android has some annoying UI bugs which they seemingly refuse to fix. The biggest is that the chat area sometimes gets randomly resized so that you can hardly read anything. There is also no way to search past chats. For all the billions they are spending on AI, their chat interface seems inexplicably half-assed.

They seemingly forgot to ask their "almost-agi-future-of-economics-the-best-thing-ever" to fix the UI...
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