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Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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tgtweak wrote: post #103
azan_ wrote: post #83

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It's amazing how different are the experiences different people have. To me every new version of chatgpt was an improvement and gemini is borderline unusable.

Very curious for what use cases you're finding gemini unusable.

Gemini loves to ignore Gemini.md instructions from the first minutes, to replace half of the python script with "# other code...", or to try to delete files OUTSIDE of the project directory, then apologise profusely, and try it again.

Utterly unreliable. I get better results, faster, editing parts of the code with Claude in a web ui, lol.

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Post by latexr »

subscribed wrote: post #280
palmotea wrote: post #135

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That's why laws against drugs are so terrible, it forces law-abiding businesses to leave money on the table. Repeal the laws and I'm sure there will be tons of startups to profit off of drug addiction.

Respectfully, this is a piss take. US prohibition on alcohol and to the large extent performative "war on drugs" showed what criminalization does (empowers, finances and radicalises the criminals). Portugal's decriminalisation, partial legalisation of weed in the Netherlands, legalisation in some American states and Canada prove legal businesses will better and safer provide the same services to the society, and the…

> Portugal's decriminalisation, partial legalisation of weed in the Netherlands, legalisation in some American states and Canada prove legal businesses will better and safer provide the same services to the society, and the lesser societal and health cost.

You’re stretching it big time. The situation in the Netherlands caused the rise of drug tourism, which isn’t exactly great for locals, nor does it stop crime or contamination.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2022/11/change-starts-here-amsterda...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/24/bacteria-pesti...

As for Portugal, decriminalisation does not mean legalisation. Drugs are still illegal, it‘s just that possession is no longer a crime and there are places where you can safely shoot up harder drugs, but the goal is still for people to leave them.

Re: Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT

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Post by mhitza »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #283
mhitza wrote: post #275

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I often use ChatGPT without an account and ChatGPT 5 mini (which you get while logged out) might as well be Mistral 7b + web search. Its that mediocre. Even the original 3.5 was way ahead.

Really? I’ve found it useful for random little things.

It is useful for quick information lookup when you're lacking the precise search terms (which is what I've often do). But the way I was chatting with the original chatgpt were better.

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Post by latexr »

chilmers wrote: post #148
palmotea wrote: post #135

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That's why laws against drugs are so terrible, it forces law-abiding businesses to leave money on the table. Repeal the laws and I'm sure there will be tons of startups to profit off of drug addiction.

There are many companies making money off alcohol addiction, video game addiction, porn addiction, food addiction, etc. Should we outlaw all these things? Should we regulate them and try to make them safe? If we can do that for them, can't we do it for AI sex chat?

The world isn’t black and white. Should we outlaw video games? No, I don’t think so. Should we outlaw specific addictive features, such as loot boxes, which are purposefully designed to trigger addiction in people and knowingly cause societal harm in the name of increasing profits for private companies? Probably.

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Post by 112233 »

anal_reactor wrote: post #272
toss1 wrote: post #76

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Sounds both true and interesting. Any particularly wild and/or illuminating examples of which you can share more detail?

Classic example: people say they'd rather pay $12 upfront and then no extra fees but they actually prefer $10 base price + $2 fees. If it didn't work then this pricing model wouldn't be so widespread.

wow, framing. "people say they prefer quitting smoking, but actually they prefer to relapse when emotionally manipulated."

The most commonly taken action does not imply people wanted to do it more, or felt happiest doing it. Unless you optimize profit only.

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Post by azuanrb »

moeffju wrote: post #287
azuanrb wrote: post #278

It’s interesting that many comments mention switching back to Claude. I’m on the opposite end, as I’ve been quite happy with ChatGPT recently. Anthropic clearly changed something after December last year. My Pro plan is barely usable now, even when using only Sonnet. I frequently hit the weekly limit, which never happened before. In contrast, ChatGPT has been very generous with usage on their plan. Another pattern I’…

There was a bug, since fixed, that erroneously capped at something like 60% of the limit, if you want to try again

You mean the harness bug on 26th? I'm aware. Just that the limit I mentioned happened since early January.

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Post by formerly_proven »

azan_ wrote: post #199
viraptor wrote: post #173

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You could commission smut of whatever type you want for quite a while. And many people do so. Even customised smut is not new. It's just going to get a bit cheaper and automated.

You couldn't talk to commissioned smut. Of course you could request changes etc. but the feedback loop was nowhere close to what you can get with AI. Interactivity is a very big deal.

There are several large platforms for interactive 1:1 or 1:few smut in various media forms. “LLM enthusiasts” have been using smutai for a couple years now. Smut generation is probably on of the top three reasons for people to build local AI rigs.

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Post by devnullbrain »

cluckindan wrote: post #190
cal_dent wrote: post #176

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i've always wondered how much the increasing prevalence of smut & not so niche romance novels, that have proliferated since e-readers became mainstream, have had on Gen Z and younger's sometimes unrealistic view/expectations of relationship. A lot of time is spent on porn sites etc. but not so much on how mainstream some of these novels have become

They had similar wonderings in the Victorian era, and probably in the Roman empire and ancient Greece too.

Is your take that the way we view sexuality today is not meaningfully different from the Victorian era?

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Post by gehwartzen »

GoatInGrey wrote: post #131
leumon wrote: post #73

> We’re continuing to make progress toward a version of ChatGPT designed for adults over 18, grounded in the principle of treating adults like adults, and expanding user choice and freedom within appropriate safeguards. To support this, we’ve rolled out age prediction for users under 18 in most markets. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/12652064-age-prediction-... interesting

Pornographic use has long been the "break glass in case of emergency" for the LLM labs when it comes to finances. My personal opinion is that while smut won't hurt anyone in of itself, LLM smut will have weird and generally negative consequences. As it will be crafted specifically for you on top of the intermittent reinforcement component of LLM generation.

I can already see our made to order, LLM generated, VR/neurolink powered, sex fantasies come to life. Throw in the synced Optimus sex robots…

I can see why Elons making the switch from cars. We certainly won’t be driving much

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