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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by duskdozer »

derbOac wrote: post #49

Honestly I'm surprised people don't jump ship more often with social media platforms. With TikTok this is kind of new news, but there have been related problems with it that have been pretty obvious for some time. The same with X and, before that, Facebook. TikTok has never worked for me though so maybe there's no real equivalent alternative. Maybe time to make one if not? To me it says something about the public, bu…

Are you really surprised? I find the interest entirely unrelatable, but I'm not surprised. They tune these platforms for addiction. I mean, I don't even use them but I still immediately recognize their branding video-end sounds just from random exposure here or there. (I hate it)

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

lingrush4 wrote: post #163
iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #126

Allow me to offer some words of wisdom. If you help building weapons to be used against $currently_designated_bad_people, you can rest assured that given enough time, those weapons will be used against you. I am watching all this with a mild sense of bemusement.

And you think they won't be used against me if I don't help build them? Seems unlikely. If the implication is that the tools won't exist if I don't build them, that's beyond a pipe dream. We'll never get a globe of 8 billion people to agree unanimously on anything. Let alone agreeing not to build something that gives them power over their adversaries.

I will offer a benign example. A new team member was given a task to generate a dashboard that, as per spec, in great detail lists every action of a given employee within a system that generates some data for consumption by those employees.

As simple as the project was, the employee had the presence of mind to ask his seniors some thoughtful questions of what makes sense, what is too intrusive, what is acceptable. He felt uncomfortable and that was with something that corps build on a daily basis.

Now.. not everyone wakes up thinking they are building database intended to enslave humanity as a whole, but I would like to think that one person simply questioning it can make a difference.

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Post by intermerda »

rcpt wrote: post #255

Nuts that the whole company is in on it. Missing such a huge story is something that rank and file engineers would notice. But nobody is saying anything. Perhaps on the tiktok Blind?

The Blind community is one of the most toxic communities out there. It made me sick even before the tech industry had its mask off moment 1+ year ago. Since then they’ve only amped up the racism and hate. I wouldn’t expect to find any serious discussion there.

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Post by potatototoo99 »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #253
mark_l_watson wrote: post #4

The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address. The TikTok algorit…

TikTok US it no longer controlled by the Chinese.

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Post by crawfordcomeaux »

sejje wrote: post #259
fwip wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like you can both want illegal aliens to get deported, but not approve of how ICE is executing protesters in the street, entering homes without warrants, and kidnapping people in unmarked vans. Similarly, you can think it would be good to catch tax fraud, but think that it should be handled without executing folks.

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You aren't seeing them because you aren't looking for them. And you're making excuses for the ones you see. Go find them. Do searches.

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Post by mothballed »

voidUpdate wrote: post #256
mothballed wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It did before the internet. See Marsh v. Alabama where publicly accessible ( private sidewalk) on private property was ruled the people there still could exercise 1A rights and could not be trespassed for doing so even if the owners forbid it.

How does freedom of speech allow you to walk somewhere you have been forbidden from walking? Does that mean you can just go into any building you want and use your 1A rights to not be arrested?

You can read the case. Basically it was a privately owned public space that they could have been otherwise trespassed from, but not for the reason of their speech. Since the reason for the trespass was their speech, it was prohibited. They were not otherwise "forbidden" from walking there were it not they expressed something that was disapproved of.

A weak analogy (I know analogy are never allowed here because "they're not the same") is that you can fire someone at will. Unless it turns out you fired them because they are black (yes I know being black is much different than expressing an opinion). It didn't mean you can't fire them at will, just that you couldn't for that specific protected reason.

Although at this point we're well well past the goalpost of "Freedom of speech has literally never prevented a private company from controlling the content on its platform" and down into the weeds of how it happened. The case clearly prevented the company from fully controlling the content of its sidewalk platform.

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Post by pjc50 »

conductr wrote: post #251
fwip wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think anti-ICE videos are being blocked in China?

Out of curiosity. What do those videos mean to an average Chinese person? What are the opinions of illegal immigration over there? How do they police it? (If at all). Does this look like normal government activity? Or are they appalled at the lack of “freedoms” in America? I am truly naive on their culture or politics around this and how they would use it to show the US as boogeymen government and how their governmen…

Don't forget that the regular operation of Chinese policing is already much less free than what Americans are used to, plus the restrictions on internal freedom of migration (Hukou, less onerous than it used to be, plus the two SAR of Macao and HK). Mandatory state-issued ID, linked to your phone and bank account and so on.

As well as racial profiling. There's not that much immigration to China in the first place, legal or otherwise.

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Post by biophysboy »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #66

They are in transition, so for the moment I believe them to have technical problems, because it also matches my experience. Yesterday I encountered problems with several videos, which are working today. And not all of them were political. Going by the comments, people on TikTok seem very fast in seeing conspiracies, when many problems can be simply explained with normal problems or human failings. And it's good to be…

I am also skeptical (despite having 0 faith in the new owners). However, I am a bit confused: why would new ownership alone cause technical issues? It seems like they set new requirements that required new software. Even if the reqs are content-agnostic, I am curious what they are and how they differ from the previous tiktok.

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Post by mekdoonggi »

sejje wrote: post #259
fwip wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like you can both want illegal aliens to get deported, but not approve of how ICE is executing protesters in the street, entering homes without warrants, and kidnapping people in unmarked vans. Similarly, you can think it would be good to catch tax fraud, but think that it should be handled without executing folks.

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If you genuinely believe that the Good incident was self-defense and doesn't even warrant a trial, you aren't capable the critical thinking necessary to participate in a lawful society. You are parrot of authority without autonomy.
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