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I was a big fan of pidgin, but this premise makes me feel iffy. Why would I ever want my work to intrude on my personal messaging? My private time is my own. Slack/Teams is perfect because I can mute it on a schedule when I stop for the day. Anything that is urgent can be managed via Pagerduty or similar on a controlled fashion
I loved Pigdin! The UI and brand was so good, too, for Linux back in the day...
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I thought the same thing. I also don't think there's such a thing as "made in Europe", as if it was "made in USA". Is it made in Germany, Italy, Albania..?
Surely it's very similar, companies can't - AFAIK - be registered in USA, they're registered in a state. USA's States have different tax and legislative climates, just like EU states do.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/running-business/devel...
Most notably, Airbus is an "European company".
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You literally mention 2 of the biggest whatsapp competitor and you have audacity to says "Nobody has even bothered to make an app that stands toe-to-toe with WhatsApp"
Besides what WhatsApp does on a technical level can be fairly easily replicated. Getting the 2 billion users is the hard part. But that is marketing not coding.
it's the network effect.
If normies who don't care for things (which is most people tbh) don't decide to switch, do you, as a techie/early adopter, just turn off whatsapp and disconnect with your normie friends? You are unlikely to be important enough in the friend group to force a switch, not to mention that this needs to happen enmass for a swing in the network effect to happen.
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Yep, 100% malicious compliance on Meta's part. I hope they get punished for this.
How so exactly? They can say they are keeping conversations secure from 3rd parties.
Spam prevention is a likely angle, however. EU should force it to be opt-out, not opt-in -- probably what people want anyway.
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> whataspp discloses name, picture, status Only to who you choose to make it available to. And if you choose “everybody”, I don’t see how you can reasonably expect this to mean “everybody not using third-party software”?
Because until today that IS what it meant! Are you claiming that "pray i do not change the deal further" is a sane approach?
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I loved Pigdin! The UI and brand was so good, too, for Linux back in the day...
Just as good on Windows, honestly. I miss that little bird.
You might be interested in our state of the bird posts... https://discourse.imfreedom.org/tag/state-of-the-bird
While not a commercial offering, which is what this is saying in reality - closed source, commercial alternative with (limited) interoperability, I've been running my own chat server for a while now with (limited) interoperability with both Whatsapp and Messenger. I suspect a good number of people here don't care for any of this - FOSS, chat, voice , and video is where it's at. Interoperability for those last two don…
Would be interesting to hear how it works what you have built. Edit: Saw your other comment now.
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WhatsApp uses the open Signal Protocol.
That's a bit misleading. WhatsApp uses Signal's end-to-end encryption scheme, but not Signal's networking protocol. It's still proprietary. Otherwise, we could have cross-messaging between Signal and Whatsapp.
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That’s because your government aligns itself with businesses, not consumers. > If a company is legally obligated to offer a feature to people in other parts of the world, they should be forced to offer it at back home in the US as well This is a pretty typical self -entitled attitude that Americans have. You chose your government, not the rest of the world.
> If a company is legally obligated to offer a feature to people in other parts of the world, they should be forced to offer it at back home in the US as well The obvious implication of the above statement is that the US government should force the company to do this. >This is a pretty typical self -entitled attitude that Americans have. When Americans ask their government for the exact same thing that Europeans aske…
At let’s not forget, most of the egregious privacy violations like faang and adtech come from American companies.