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Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by elAhmo »

ezst wrote: post #281
mlrtime wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really, you are framing this issue and dropping key words to make it political, are you a bot farming for engagement, please stop.

Not OP but, oh common. This entire thing IS political. Big Tech IS in bed with the authoritarian US apparatus, they have been very transparent about it. What are you expecting to gain from your message? Pedantry points?

OP, not a bot. CF definitely chose to be political in the message, so regardless of what Italy did or who is right and wrong, posting that message is just a message that reliance on CF can just be a bad idea long-term.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by elAhmo »

freehorse wrote: post #200
elAhmo wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the recent threats from Cloudflare against Italy and siding with Vance, Musk and co., this is definitely not a far-fetched reality. Big Tech has demonstrated which side they are going with.

Not submitting to state censorship requests is not a great example of what is the problem with Big Tech as discussed here.

I wasn't referring to the state censorship request, but rather to the 'flocking' to self-proclaimed champions of free speech in the current Trump administrations as a cry for help.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by nuke-web3 »

VikingCoder wrote: post #274

Please, sell me a USB-C device that gives me mesh networking on my phone. I'd like a Small, Medium, and Large option. Ideally, each would have a passthrough charger, so I can charge my phone even with the device plugged in to my phone. The Small is just the device, and I guess it would drain my phone's battery. The Large would have a 25,000mAh and be just small enough to legally take on an airplane in the United Stat…

Worth checking out meshtastic and their ecosystem of much longer range mesh tech.

https://meshtastic.org/docs/hardware/devices/

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by lazide »

stavros wrote: post #273
thisislife2 wrote: post #260

Mobile phones with "Mesh networking" built-in have now started to appear in the market. E.g Tecno Spark Go 3 - https://www.tecno-mobile.com/phones/product-detail/product/s... - recently launched in India has a feature called Freelink 2 that claims to connect with other Tecno phones to provide "connectivity" without wifi or cellular network up to a range of 1.5 kms. More here: https://www.intelregion.com/tech/how-to-u…

> (Personally, I don't think any government is going to allow this.) Then that's a pretty clear signal for how free that government is.

a great many countries ban satellite phones too.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by returningfory2 »

thisislife2 wrote: post #284
stavros wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (Personally, I don't think any government is going to allow this.) Then that's a pretty clear signal for how free that government is.

As someone who lives in a democratic country, I am quite loathe to trust any foreign-controlled communication platform. I also do not support or endorse violent politics. Seeing how social media has triggered political riots in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal and now in Iran (probably with the aid of foreign sponsors / agents) to destabilise these countries, I am fully in favour of governments clamping down hard on such…

Isn't it well known that the "protestors are foreign agents" line is just extremely transparent bs that governments use to silence dissent?

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by throwaway2037 »

michaelt wrote: post #172
throwaway2037 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to side track too much from this discussion, but I looked at that PolyMarket event: "US civil war before 2027?" Currently, it is priced at 91.3 USD cents for No. If you bet 100 USD, the payout for No will be 109.43. That is very good return -- ~9.5% for 12 months of lending (as PolyMarket required full payment at the time of trade). That is twice the (retail) risk free rate at the moment. I am actually tempted to…

> Am I missing something obvious? Considering reports like "Polymarket refuses to pay bets that US would 'invade' Venezuela" [1] one risk is poorly written small print, meaning you might not actually be betting on the thing you think you're betting on. This could also err in your favour, of course - but it's still a source of risk. There's also the risks involved in cryptocurrency generally - it's the wild west, rife…

    >  You want to gamble $200,000 maybe no-one will take your bet.
There is a visible order book. You can only place your order if someone takes the other side. Both sides are fully funded.

    > Can you be bothered to go through all the KYC paperwork rigmarole for $190 ?
Can you tell me more about the KYC reqs?

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by lazide »

mlrtime wrote: post #207
energy123 wrote: post #188

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It's similar to selling options out of the money. You get compensated because nobody likes to pick up pennies in front of a steamroller.

I will when that bet is the steamroller taking out the entire country.

And the Pennies are the currency of the entire country?

Frankly, if the scenario comes to pass, currency value risk is just as likely to make it not pay out than anything else.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by lazide »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #162
nsvd2 wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you haven't been paying attention to American politics, there are currently widespread protests due to a woman being shot by ICE last week. It looks like the current administration may be seeking violent unrest in the hopes of delaying elections.

1. ban guns 2. start civil war 3. ??? 4. civil war with stone axes

There are more currently owned guns in circulation in the US than people.

One thing is for sure, any civil war in the us will not be short on guns.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by throwaway2037 »

immibis wrote: post #253
throwaway2037 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to side track too much from this discussion, but I looked at that PolyMarket event: "US civil war before 2027?" Currently, it is priced at 91.3 USD cents for No. If you bet 100 USD, the payout for No will be 109.43. That is very good return -- ~9.5% for 12 months of lending (as PolyMarket required full payment at the time of trade). That is twice the (retail) risk free rate at the moment. I am actually tempted to…

PolyMarket repeatedly paid out bets on Trump creating peace between Palestine and Israel even though he hasn't.

I Googled about this but could not find any reliable sources. Can you share some evidence that this is true?

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by sneak »

BatteryMountain wrote: post #290
agnishom wrote: post #166

This should be a lesson for all of us. We should start building and maintaining lightweight mesh networks, just in case. We shouldn't take the world of cooperating ISPs and Meta and Cloudflare and Google and AWS for granted.

Yeah until google, apple & friends boot them from the stores and block side loading as well. Then we're all screwed, as they will have 100% grip and visibility on comms and won't allow third party encrypted comms. Just wait and see friends, that day is around the corner. Which means all sensitive comms will move back offline...

Apple is already blocking protest coordination apps in Hong Kong at the demand of the CCP, and ICE oversight/tracking apps in the USA.
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