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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by Lammy »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #275
Lammy wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but not a 1:1 comparison, because Classic Mac OS windows were much better at staying where you put them, even between sessions. John Siracusa wrote a lot about how this was missing from Mac OS X: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2003/04/finder/

People also didn't regularly plug classic Macs into external monitors, changing the screen resolution temporarily. For this and many other reasons, I just don't think the paradigm would work today. It's philosophically smart but limiting in too many other ways.

Yeah that is also true. I have had that experience with certain CD-ROMs (maybe like two or three ever but has happened) on my PowerBook 2400c. If the authoring machine had a higher display resolution than my machine, and the author had the writable disc image's window open to a place outside my screen resolution, and the window positions got saved to the DesktopDB/DesktopDF, and the DesktopDB/DesktopDF got written to the CD-ROM, then it would open in the position outside my screen resolution every time my own DesktopDB/DesktopDF got erased. One particular artist's CD-ROM is completely outside of it which annoys me every time.

Relevant TA: https://web.archive.org/web/20090625152558/http://support.ap...

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by locusofself »

alejoar wrote: post #274

I use easy-move-resize [1] to resize windows from anywhere inside the area of the window, using a modifier key. In my case I like using cmd + middle mouse button + drag. This is standard in Gnome and a must for me back when I switch to MacOS for work. [1] https://github.com/dmarcotte/easy-move-resize

Just tried this. Pretty cool. Kinda strange how the mouse cursor doesn't move with the window, but still might be worth using.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by robrain »

deafpolygon wrote: post #104

I don’t have this issue at all . I have a very generous amount of space to grab the corner with and it changes mouse pointer to the diagonal arrow. Edit: despite all the negative feedback, I’m quite happy with Tahoe and I enjoy the visual changes. I think some of the subtler changes is more intuitive and Spotlight’s improvement is quite nice.

Pleased that I'm not alone. The comments here suggest that I should just bin my Mac and buy a Linux-capable machine instead since MacOS is now "unusable", "heinous", "diabolical", "worst OS EVER".

I updated, carried on enjoying the best desktop experience (IMHO). It's not perfect, but was and remains better than the alternatives for me. Very little "struggle".

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by data-ottawa »

rajivjain wrote: post #103

My biggest peeve with macOS Tahoe is the App Launcher redesign. It seems like a clear regression in usability. By moving from a high-density, full-screen experience to a constrained, scrolling window, they’ve increased the interaction cost for launching apps via the mouse. It feels like a 'unification tax. Sacrificing desktop utility to align with non-Desktop modalilties. Does anyone see a functional upside here, or…

I don't know why it's so laggy when you open it. First time you open and scroll it jitters and not all app icons are loaded, so they kind of chunk and overlap.

You get worse icon pop-in if you add your app folder with grid view to the dock. These aren't stored on the network, so it's baffling they take so long to load the icons.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by spartanatreyu »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #47
lifetimerubyist wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

....with a keyboard? on macos I use Rectangle, on linux I just use the built-in resizing keyboard shortcuts

"I downloaded a separate application to make resizing windows easier" is not a point in favor of MacOS's window resizing decisions.

True, but macos x has never had good window resizing decisions.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by hayleox »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #4

Of all the Linux features to copy, they chose this.

*GNOME features, not Linux features. No such issues over here on KDE.

I have often felt like GNOME is the most Apple-y of desktop environments; they're very form over function. Not surprising to me at all that both would pick a design that seems beautiful until you try to use it.

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Post by marssaxman »

bsder wrote: post #242
iLemming wrote: post #185

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One of the most annoying things after installing Tahoe for me, that for no good reason an ordinary app would randomly lose its focus. In the midst of my typing. This is unbelievably preposterous and I just can't stop hating Apple for this crap. How the fuck this is acceptable? I just have no words. What makes it even worse that I couldn't even complain about it on their support pages - they just keep removing my comm…

> how am I suppose to make it "more constructive"? Obviously by shutting the hell up, you ungrateful serf. The beatings will continue until morale improves. Seriously, though, if you want this to stop, people like you are going to have to start voting with their wallets. I finally pulled the plug on macOS a couple years ago for Linux, and I haven't been unhappy about it. However, I did make a point of buying a laptop…

I did the same a decade ago, and I've been fully content with my Linux-only life - but a new MacBook recently arrived along with a new job, so now I'm using Tahoe whether I like it or not. It's generally difficult to vote with someone else's wallet.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by c-hendricks »

BoneShard wrote: post #172

Maybe I'm too old and every modern computer is a marvel to me, but as someone switching between win/macos/linux all these complaints amuse me. While in windows I'm using powertoys and I can move/resize windows using any space inside a window. It's the same with linux/gnome - a couple of config settings. Then, when I started using macos I looked for a similar solution - found BetterSnapTool and just started using it.

Wait which powertoy does resizing and moving of windows? I've been using AltSnap while still having powertoys installled for changing caps lock behaviour.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by victor106 »

signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

I agree. I have been kind of an Apple fanboy but the Tahoe thing is one of the worst products to come out of the company. I really think people should be fired for releasing this.

This is akin to MobileMe -

https://www.cultofmac.com/apple-history/steve-jobs-mobileme-...

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