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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by helloaltalt »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #87
daedrdev wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow its so nice this excuse just happens to shut down the internet when an astronomically unpopular regime faces vast protests after years of economic and political mismanagement

Internet shut downs are really common in authoritarian countries. India used to shut the Internet down in Kashmir every other day, and in random states for random reasons some as seemingly trivial as high school students taking their board exams

Kashmir has such a bloody history with its kashmiri pandits and wars and even recent events that really shock its nation.

Kashmir has been the most unstable part of India and Article 370 although with flaws wanted to give Kashmir the stability it deserves but Kashmir had even its own flags and state etc. and thats why it got really messy and why the internet used to be shut down

Kashmir still requires people to specifically get a sim just for Kashmir. But you can get any large carrier to do such. There are even ways of generating e-sim and such, but there is genuinely lots of concerns and complaints in doing so and its very time consuming in a way but internet access has stabilized for the most part, you just require a special sim verification again to do such or perhaps buying a new sim specifically for kashmir but you can port the number as well but as I said, its really time consuming but possible to even do this without entering kashmir itself

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by helloaltalt »

bawolff wrote: post #266
WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #169

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CIA and Amnesty's claims aside, focus on how social media fuels civil unrest, the real concern is foreign interference, Iran has been a target for a very long time The US wants a regime change, that's a fact, Trump has been very vocal on the matter, and the NSA has the tools to do what ever it pleases on the internet (e.g., PRISM)

You know what else fuels unrest - potentially not having basic needs met by society. There is a major economic crisis in Iran. There is an impending water crisis. Social media is a new thing, but protests are old. People protested in despotic regimes prior to social media, and the triggering factors were basically the same as what is happening in Iran right now.

> Social media is a new thing, but protests are old. People protested in despotic regimes prior to social media, and the triggering factors were basically the same as what is happening in Iran right now.

In fact, Social medias can make the co-ordination of protests and other information rather quickly. Its one of the few benefits of social medias. Social media with all its flaws still helps protests

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by rvnx »

syncsynchalt wrote: post #195
inglor_cz wrote: post #154

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There is an official exemption for Starlink, and quite logically so, because Internet access outside government control is actually bad for the mullahs and somewhat advantageous for the US.

I didn't know this, so I pulled up a cite for anyone else interested: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-expands-sanctions-exception...

Thank you both! I understand it better now. This is not Elon bypassing the rules but rather that the US wants to support the protests so they make an exemption; so it makes sense from a foreign policy perspective.

I really didn't think it like this.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by helloaltalt »

breppp wrote: post #267
ukblewis wrote: post #233

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Can you please re-share this as a separate link? It deserves it's own attention

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46547303 There was a recent post containing a (different) map of the protests that was flagged, but here goes

Why was it flagged? What the fuck?

Mods this is not okay. Don't abuse your power flagging posts about maps of protests. This is not okay.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by helloaltalt »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #280

I just spent the better part of an hour, trying to track down anomalies, in one of my servers (Iran feeds us a lot of data), only to find DNS (IPv4) is not resolving. It worked fine, just a bit earlier. Ah, well...

I created a comment in here but does this mean that you cant do something like dns tunneling in iran?

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by lukan »

scoofy wrote: post #269
EthanHeilman wrote: post #60

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Yes, but it is more difficult than jamming a typical radio antenna because the starlink uses a directed beam rather than a omnidirectional radio broadcast. This either requires enormous amounts of power, targeting the satellite itself with a directed radio beam, or getting between the satellite and the ground station by bouncing a signal off the ionosphere. The above is for jamming directed beams in general. It is li…

Huge idiot here with an honest question: with starlink, could a rogue actor just point a bunch of high-powered lasers at the satellites and brick them?

In short, likely no(unless the satellites are really sensitive). Otherwise lasers would have negated the fear of ICBMs long ago.

Because the atmosphere absorbs a lot of energy of the laser beam and focusing the laser beam to such a distant target is not easy. So you cannot just use some high powered lasers, as it would be just a bright spot at most. It would be different, if the laser would be space based, but that is out of reach of Iran's capabilities. They might have anti satellite rockets, but using them against US property in space would create other problems for them.

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Post by SilentM68 »

chrneu wrote: post #222
SilentM68 wrote: post #140

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I tend to agree with most of what you said regarding all governments and countries. What may not be widely known is that some authoritarian regimes have been accused by expatriates of identifying and indoctrinating intellectually gifted children into their state-sponsored organizations for use by these entities for unmentionable purposes. Of course, it's next to impossible to find written documentation, with specific…

>What may not be widely known is that some authoritarian regimes have been accused by expatriates of identifying and indoctrinating intellectually gifted children into their state-sponsored organizations Literally every country does this. It's just perspective whether an individual thinks it's okay or not. If you're on the side doing the indoctrination, you probably agree with it, or are indoctrinated yourself. We al…

That is true. But I refer to those parents that sent their children to other countries because they knew the state or gov would not have allowed them to prevent the indoctrination of their children. But yes, we all are to some degree, unfortunately.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by throw0101d »

gilrain wrote: post #67
throw0101d wrote: post #55

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[flagged]

That link says the story was retracted.

> That link says the story was retracted.

Since the original comment was flagged, the original link with the 2023 story with retraction:

* https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/07/elon-musk...

A 2025 article, "Musk ordered shutdown of Starlink satellite service as Ukraine retook territory from Russia":

> KYIV - During a pivotal push by Ukraine to retake territory from Russia in late September 2022, Elon Musk gave an order that disrupted the counteroffensive and dented Kyiv’s trust in Starlink, the satellite internet service the billionaire provided early in the war to help Ukraine’s military maintain battlefield connectivity.

> “We have to do this,” Michael Nicolls, the Starlink engineer, told colleagues upon receiving the order, one of these people said. Staffers complied, the three people told Reuters, deactivating at least a hundred Starlink terminals, their hexagon-shaped cells going dark on an internal map of the company’s coverage. The move also affected other areas seized by Russia, including some of Donetsk province further east.

[…]

> After the book was published, Musk denied a shutdown, saying that there had never been coverage in Crimea to begin with. He said he had, rather, rejected a Ukrainian request to provide service ahead of Kyiv’s planned attack. Isaacson later conceded his account was flawed. A spokesperson at Isaacson’s publisher declined to comment or make him available for an interview.

[…]

> As Ukraine’s counterattack intensified, Russian President Vladimir Putin on September 21, 2022, ordered a partial mobilization of reservists, Russia’s first since World War II. He also threatened to use nuclear weapons if Russia’s own “territorial integrity” were at risk. Around this time, Musk engaged in weeks of backchannel conversations with senior officials in the administration of President Joe Biden, according to three former U.S. government officials and one of the people familiar with Musk’s order to stop service. During those conversations, the former White House staffer told Reuters, U.S. intelligence and security officials expressed concern that Putin could follow through on his threats. Musk, this person added, worried too, and asked U.S. officials if they knew where and how Ukraine used Starlink on the battlefield.

> Soon after, he ordered the shutdown.

* https://www.reuters.com/investigations/musk-ordered-shutdown...

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by bawolff »

protocolture wrote: post #289
falaki wrote: post #30

Fortunately, the government cannot enforce complete blackout because thousands of startlink terminals are active inside the country. They have been complaining about it [1] to no avail. Using these terminals activists and journalists continue to upload videos of demonstrations to social media which has enabled analyses that show demonstrations are very wide spread [2] and continue to grow. [1] https://www.itu.int/en/…

Where are the ground stations Iranian traffic is using? Starlink usually lacks the bandwidth to tunnel traffic very far. In most countries the ground station is in the same country. My bet is, a neighboring country, within reach of Iranian missiles. Oman and Turkey are listed but that data is old. But its not about censorship in the usual sense really. Its about preventing peer to peer communication. With less than a…

> Starlink usually lacks the bandwidth to tunnel traffic very far. In most countries the ground station is in the same country. My bet is, a neighboring country, within reach of Iranian missiles. Oman and Turkey are listed but that data is old.

You really think iran is going to bomb turkey (a nato country) over this?

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