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Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by hagbard_c »

jakeydus wrote: post #251
socalgal2 wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's felt bloated for a while. Everytime I setup a new Mac I have to remove all of the icons from the doc. A new Dell isn't that bloated.

> a new Dell isn’t that bloated. At least a new Mac doesn’t try to serve you ads in the app launcher.

A new ${computer_brand} with Linux doesn't show you any ads, doesn't add more bloat than you let it, doesn't insist on you creating any iCloudy or Microsofty accounts, doesn't try to police what software you run on the thing, doesn't try to upsell you to some ${precious_metal} plan, doesn't insist your 5 year new computer is obsolete, doesn't spy on you, etcetera.

What are you waiting for?

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by frizlab »

jjice wrote: post #43

I don't mind how Liquid Glass looks at all. It's just insane how buggy the system has become. Even Messages will bug out, like deleting my first word if I type too fast after opening a conversation or auto scrolling and not letting me scroll down until I exit and re-enter. Unacceptable for the premium you pay for Apple software. Unacceptable for any software one is paying for. I hope they get their shit together and…

I don’t mind Liquid Glass either to be honest. I kind of like it even. I also completely agree regarding software quality, which is abysmal (I am sufficiently aware of the internals of a lot of things on macOS to know most of the time why it’s like this, but it’s still unacceptable).

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by lawn »

nout wrote: post #232

This is a good time for trying Linux. If you are coming from Mac, then a distro with GNOME interface (Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu...) will feel like at home after a couple tweaks. I recommend "Dash to Dock" to get the MacOS dock experience and "Search Light" to get the spotlight search.

I installed CachyOS recently for my 8 year old kid.

Fantastic experience all around. KDE Plasma is an excellent window manager and everything just worked out of the box (gaming, wifi, etc).

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by FireBeyond »

davnicwil wrote: post #290
FireBeyond wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, that's iOS (I'm on a 16 Pro). I routinely have apps I can switch into but are entirely dead. They're not chewing CPU cycles, the phone is "cold". But very much so. So very frustrated.

the one I've noticed being the worst for lock ups is the camera / photos app, which is frankly very surprising given how central the photography usecase appears to be to iPhone sales and therefore Apple's bottom line. I'm talking, I pull up the camera and try to take literally 4-5 shots quickly and by the 6th there's what feels like seconds of lag between the button press and the photo being taken. It feels like I'm…

Interesting, likewise, the Camera app. And other camera apps, I use Halide too.

And Photos. Will it sync? Yes. When? Who the fuck knows? Doesn't matter whether you're on Ethernet or Wifi, gigabit internet. You can quit Photos on both devices, you can then keep Photos open foreground... so what? Photos will sync when it wants to, not what when you want it to.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

baq wrote: post #50
coldpie wrote: post #40

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If it helps, I've been using XFCE since 2007 and it's remained functionally identical for all of those almost 20 years. It just works, it improves a tiny bit with each major upgrade, and they don't rearrange everything every couple years for the sake of justifying a salary. Maybe it's a good opportunity to consider whether you actually have to keep running on Apple's treadmill.

I’d love an XFCE (or even gnome tbh) environment on a properly built laptop, unfortunately only Apple is able to build something that works in all areas that matter: sleeps when lid closed, wakes when lid opens, touchpad and display don’t suck.

> unfortunately only Apple is able to build something that works in all areas that matter: sleeps when lid closed, wakes when lid opens, touchpad and display don’t suck

In my case I'd add:

- Chassis that doesn't flex like crazy

- Battery life good enough that I typically don't need to think about AC outlet accessibility

- Can sit in standby for upwards of a week without battery drain forcing it to shut down

- Is inaudible except when maxing out CPU or GPU for several minutes

- Has a screen panel with a resolution that's either 1x or 2x UI scaling native

The number of laptops in the market that check these boxes is disappointingly tiny.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by davnicwil »

FireBeyond wrote: post #294
davnicwil wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the one I've noticed being the worst for lock ups is the camera / photos app, which is frankly very surprising given how central the photography usecase appears to be to iPhone sales and therefore Apple's bottom line. I'm talking, I pull up the camera and try to take literally 4-5 shots quickly and by the 6th there's what feels like seconds of lag between the button press and the photo being taken. It feels like I'm…

Interesting, likewise, the Camera app. And other camera apps, I use Halide too. And Photos. Will it sync? Yes. When? Who the fuck knows? Doesn't matter whether you're on Ethernet or Wifi, gigabit internet. You can quit Photos on both devices, you can then keep Photos open foreground... so what? Photos will sync when it wants to, not what when you want it to.

you're right! The photo syncing is comically bad, again given the alleged importance of photos in the Apple marketing material. That said I've rarely used it in the past and so wasn't sure if it was a newly degraded experience or had always been that poor.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by bbkane »

frizlab wrote: post #292
jjice wrote: post #43

I don't mind how Liquid Glass looks at all. It's just insane how buggy the system has become. Even Messages will bug out, like deleting my first word if I type too fast after opening a conversation or auto scrolling and not letting me scroll down until I exit and re-enter. Unacceptable for the premium you pay for Apple software. Unacceptable for any software one is paying for. I hope they get their shit together and…

I don’t mind Liquid Glass either to be honest. I kind of like it even. I also completely agree regarding software quality, which is abysmal (I am sufficiently aware of the internals of a lot of things on macOS to know most of the time why it’s like this, but it’s still unacceptable).

I'll bite. Why is it like this (in your opinion of course)?

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by dundundundun »

hagbard_c wrote: post #291
jakeydus wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a new Dell isn’t that bloated. At least a new Mac doesn’t try to serve you ads in the app launcher.

A new ${computer_brand} with Linux doesn't show you any ads, doesn't add more bloat than you let it, doesn't insist on you creating any iCloudy or Microsofty accounts, doesn't try to police what software you run on the thing, doesn't try to upsell you to some ${precious_metal} plan, doesn't insist your 5 year new computer is obsolete, doesn't spy on you, etcetera. What are you waiting for?

Proper sleep.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by mitchell209 »

eoskx wrote: post #158
phantasmish wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are like a half-dozen blatant bugs I encounter between daily and weekly in Safari. Text input and textarea editing is buggy in a couple ways, Apple Pay has a positioning bug where sometimes its bottom button is about 1/3 off the screen, certain elements on a couple pages smear when I scroll (but only sometimes). Not even counting ways the keyboard itself is worse now. I haven’t seen browsing this buggy outside…

My issues with Safari have mostly been iCloud-related. The latest one being the iCloud tabs SQLlite database getting corrupted constantly and keeping stale tabs around that I have long closed. 26.2 seems to have fixed it, but it was around at least since Sonoma. I've had similar issues with Reading List, where again, the database gets corrupted and changes that I've made to Reading List get reverted. It is just littl…

I gave up on the normal iCloud tabs for over a decade now. But the Safari Tab Groups implementation is by far the best I've used. If I need to share a window, I just open it in a tab group and those have synced flawlessly for me so far.

Re: Last Year on My Mac: Look Back in Disbelief

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Post by hagbard_c »

LoganDark wrote: post #235
nout wrote: post #232

This is a good time for trying Linux. If you are coming from Mac, then a distro with GNOME interface (Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu...) will feel like at home after a couple tweaks. I recommend "Dash to Dock" to get the MacOS dock experience and "Search Light" to get the spotlight search.

I love GNOME Wayland; it has some of the best support for trackpad gestures of any Linux desktop experience I've ever tried. On the other paw though, client-side decorations are not the way to go on Linux, and I'm still incredibly frustrated that they insist on not even supporting server-side decorations at all. Client-side decorations are for apps that are designed specifically for a certain desktop experience; serv…

My biggest beef with client-side decorations is that they're not optional. For those of us using tiling window managers those decorations are totally superfluous and only take up space, especially since the Gnome folks seem to have decided that every UI element needs to have lebensraum by adding huge areas of white space around them. I want my windows densely populated and I want lots of them on my screen because I'm using a COMPUTER - not a PHONE - with a LARGE SCREEN and a pointing device. I do not need to be able to fat-finger those buttons, I have an accurate pointing device with which I control a pointy cursor with which I can accurately hit single pixels if needed. Now I need to LD_PRELOAD some library to get rid of those stupid unneeded decorations, I need to find the current iteration of the compact Adwaita theme (for as long as that is still possible...) and I otherwise need to FIGHT the software as if I were running some proprietary blob of malware from the Fruit Factory or from Redmond. Blegh, so much wasted time and effort.
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