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We invited a man into our home at Christmas and he stayed with us for 45 years

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Post by jama211 »

kulahan wrote: post #288
jama211 wrote: post #282

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And it would be accurate if you were talking about political or legal safety nets which are common across Asia except in china, for example. Your attempt at being geographically correct is dismissive and counter productive to the conversation about something that is obviously not about the specific geographic usage of the word.

Nope, it still wouldn’t make any sense whatsoever. Nobody cares if the UK wants to pretend to be Asian or American or simply “not living on a continent” or whatever worthless distinction they’re clinging to. They’re European. Chinese are Asian. Brazilians are South American. They’re the ones deviating from the usage the rest of the world uses. It would be identical to them pretending they’re the only ones driving on…

It makes perfect sense to everyone but you who’s intentionally being obtuse and argumentative. Show yourself out.

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Post by scotty79 »

ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #217
scotty79 wrote: post #188

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> Similarly, "how many strangers in your house have been murderers?" is irrelevant, even if the answer is "all of them so far". That doesn't sound very sane.

Complete word salad.

I think what he was trying to say is that the next coin toss can't be predicted based on previous one, which is true. However history of results up to now can tell a lot about where you'll end up and with what probability if you keep tossing the same coin. And that's what really matters in life. Even in real world gambling.

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Post by kulahan »

jama211 wrote: post #291
kulahan wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, it still wouldn’t make any sense whatsoever. Nobody cares if the UK wants to pretend to be Asian or American or simply “not living on a continent” or whatever worthless distinction they’re clinging to. They’re European. Chinese are Asian. Brazilians are South American. They’re the ones deviating from the usage the rest of the world uses. It would be identical to them pretending they’re the only ones driving on…

It makes perfect sense to everyone but you who’s intentionally being obtuse and argumentative. Show yourself out.

Is this a new meme or something?

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Post by robocat »

fragmede wrote: post #246
robocat wrote: post #243

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Asking ChatGPT for that sort of advice seems like a horrific idea. Trying to learn interactions by written means can only lead to some very alien ideas. Plus your questions will contain your mistakes, and what you take from any answers would reinforce your misunderstandings rather than correct them. It's hard to suggest better learning means via the HN medium. I learnt a lot when I carefully gave attention to a frien…

Where are these alien ideas are going to come from? Did aliens come to Earth and their complete works got smuggled into the training data for ChatGPT, and not the collected works of humanity? Every poem that's been digitized, every human psychology textbook, every self-help book?

My point is that if you want to understand human interactions, you need to participate in them.

Rationally analysing human interactions via writing and psychology will screw up your leaning.

Children just learn by doing and are only guided in a gross sense.

If you want to understand people, one must learn like a child does.

These my personal beliefs that I apply to myself. Trying to find you some scientific papers would be counterproductive and destroy the point I am making.

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Post by Rendello »

decafninja wrote: post #285
Rendello wrote: post #284

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The man in the article had a similar problem: > While they admitted the dynamic had its difficulties, including battling Ronnie's gambling addiction for 20 years, they couldn't imagine their lives without him.

One unfortunate aspect about their relationship is that my uncle in law also likes to gamble - but in strict moderation. However this means the two of them sometimes end up going to the casinos together. I don’t think these trips are helping this man’s gambling addiction.

That's one reason I don't like to drink. I can moderate myself (I don't like being inebriated at all), but some around me are active or recovering alcoholics. So why drink in front of them?

A recovering family member told me the location of every bottle of booze in the family home where we were, their type, and how full they were. In the fridge, the back of the cupboard, and in the basement under the laundry rack. Even though he'd stopped drinking! So, I don't even like keeping alcohol in the house anymore, especially if it's not locked up.

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Post by KPGv2 »

kulahan wrote: post #288
jama211 wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it would be accurate if you were talking about political or legal safety nets which are common across Asia except in china, for example. Your attempt at being geographically correct is dismissive and counter productive to the conversation about something that is obviously not about the specific geographic usage of the word.

Nope, it still wouldn’t make any sense whatsoever. Nobody cares if the UK wants to pretend to be Asian or American or simply “not living on a continent” or whatever worthless distinction they’re clinging to. They’re European. Chinese are Asian. Brazilians are South American. They’re the ones deviating from the usage the rest of the world uses. It would be identical to them pretending they’re the only ones driving on…

"I am the only arbiter of how words ought to be used" is the totality of your argument.

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Post by lynx97 »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #108
lynx97 wrote: post #78

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> initial reaction is hard to hide and is profoundly impactful to the people who see it a million times I can relate this very much, and I am "just" 100% blind. I believe what we are talking about is not "neurotypicals" vs "non-neurotypicals", it is really the way society treats anyone with a pertceived disability. We are, even though society tries to keep the mask on, outcasts, and we are regularily enough treated l…

> I will never feel like a "normal" person, they will make sure I never will. Saying "make sure" suggests intent. I would hope the discomfort causing reactions are an unintentional side effect of ignorance. Because if so then there's hope that even the masses can learn to be more considerate and inclusive. Ultimately, nearly all of us will develop some physical or mental impairment due to accidents or aging.

If you have been treated repeatedly in an uncomfortable way by strangers, and sometimes even your own family, intent at some point no longer matters to you. It is the end result that counts. I dont have any sympathy for weirdos, they are what they are, but they definitely dont deserve me explaining away their shortcomings. I am the one that has to do home and wrestle with my reaction to them crossing borders they are to dense to even realize exist.

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Post by kulahan »

KPGv2 wrote: post #296
kulahan wrote: post #288

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Nope, it still wouldn’t make any sense whatsoever. Nobody cares if the UK wants to pretend to be Asian or American or simply “not living on a continent” or whatever worthless distinction they’re clinging to. They’re European. Chinese are Asian. Brazilians are South American. They’re the ones deviating from the usage the rest of the world uses. It would be identical to them pretending they’re the only ones driving on…

"I am the only arbiter of how words ought to be used" is the totality of your argument.

No, it’s “people don’t get to randomly decide not to be part of the land they live on”, or even shorter: “words have meaning”

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Post by kulahan »

fennecbutt wrote: post #270
kulahan wrote: post #253

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This story takes places in Europe, so it sounds like those social safety nets aren’t really doing shit here, as OP implied.

And how were America's social nets for, say an Autistic person, in 1975? ;3

Who cares

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Post by foxglacier »

kortilla wrote: post #171
foxglacier wrote: post #134

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Do you mean Christianity? Islam is full of consequences for members - it has a system of laws and punishments. It has forgiveness too but some crimes are unforgiveable even by God. Meanwhile, out-groups are more like enemies that sometimes should be killed if they don't cooperate.

Having some laws for bad behavior doesn’t mean Islam doesn’t let men shirk responsibility. Women are expected to cover themselves because of men being expected to have so little self control.

Most western countries also have laws requiring women to cover themselves. It's still a law in either case and still has punishments not "say a prayer and you're off the hook".
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