This makes feel a bit queasy for some reason https://americabydesign.gov/
America as a brand... my soul weeps.
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ever since USDS got renamed as DOGE, they've had trouble recruiting people. I suspect this move is maybe an effort to shed DOGE's negative image.
Textbook PR. If your reputation went to shit, just rebrand it. See, for example, how the head of DOGE said "That wasn't a nazi salute, that was roman salute! It's a completely different thing."
Is the implication that they are in fact the same thing or that you don’t like Elon?
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#293I still can't decide whether DOGE was a genius steal "hit job" to steal a bunch of data and place people into key positions under the pretext of waste reduction, or whether it was just truly an exercise in rushed "kill them all!" style incompetence that was never properly thought through or executed.
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#294Or, they could have just kept 18F and USDS :/ Good luck trying to hire those people back, or people like them!
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
> DC has the highest per capita income of anywhere in the US This isn't from the Federal workers; it's from people working in contracting for the Feds or other similar roles.
Googling average Federal worker income in DC, every number I came up with was the above the average for DC, and DC is higher than every other state/territory. I find nothing supporting your assertion but plenty opposing it. Feds are not only pulling it up, but the biggest group of people doing so.
One thing to remember is that federal workers tend to be older because most agencies have been encouraged to hire contractors for decades. That skews averages up towards the mid-career managers, which will seem high if you compare it to the entire job market but if you only compare them with similar private sector employees who have comparable experience and skills they’re underpaid.
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#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
Googling average Federal worker income in DC, every number I came up with was the above the average for DC, and DC is higher than every other state/territory. I find nothing supporting your assertion but plenty opposing it. Feds are not only pulling it up, but the biggest group of people doing so.
There are a lot of old feds that can afford the area because of how it was priced 25-40 years ago. That’s how stable some fed jobs and careers were. Now, talking to a barista in DC and the solution is 4-5 roommates. Not unfamiliar to those in the bay area, but less upside.
Less upside…unless your goal is to mix it up with politics,
vs the tech machine.
Not everyone is you, us.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
For DOGE specifically? Would be interested to hear of those DOGE employees who truly deserved to be GS-15s due to their extensive experience in both tech and government.
> extensive experience in both tech and government. The USDS (group that was renamed to a part of DOGE) has previously hired with an emphasis on non government experience: http://govciomedia.com/usds-developing-innovative-approach-t...
because, at the time, slick landers, and general good UI/UX was completely missing from government tech workflows.
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#298Hahahaha, they just updated the website to address the criticisms on this page! Fair play, NDS employee reading this thread.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
> DC has the highest per capita income of anywhere in the US This isn't from the Federal workers; it's from people working in contracting for the Feds or other similar roles.
Googling average Federal worker income in DC, every number I came up with was the above the average for DC, and DC is higher than every other state/territory. I find nothing supporting your assertion but plenty opposing it. Feds are not only pulling it up, but the biggest group of people doing so.
Yeah, it's marginally above average for DC, but that doesn't mean they're "raking it in". The average (which is a bad metric for income) is dragged up by the wealthy in DC balancing out the poor in DC, not hordes of Federal Workers (most of whom live outside DC in Maryland/Virginia, FWIW) making $120k.
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's just no path to home ownership in the DC area for the fed career path after the ZIRP era. A capable person would have to be insane or desperate given the economics alone.
DC has the highest per capita income of anywhere in the US (vs other states/territories), so when you realize federal workers are producing the most value for America the economics are at least a little better. If you look at relative economic slackers like workers of NYC and the private industry where less value is per capita created, it's a bit rougher.
This is a distorted comparison and you know it. DC in unique among US states and territories in that it encompasses a major metropolitan area with no rural regions. In this comparison, DC also leads the country in population density, average building height, public transit usage, latte consumption, and any other correlate of living in a city.
If you compare DC against other major metropolitan statistical areas, the leadership disappears -- see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_metropol...