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Helldivers 2 devs slash install size from 154GB to 23GB

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Re: Helldivers 2 devs slash install size from 154GB to 23GB

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Post by akimbostrawman »

wilg wrote: post #288
retrochameleon wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On my high performance SSD for games and other data that requires it. If I pay for 1 or 2 TB of high performance storage, I want to use that extra space for other things. Not to mention the fact that I don't want my storage to fill up too much because they affects general performance on the drive. Also, more data that is written and rewritten with game updates is more, unnecessary wear on the drive.

insufferable

yes, being a contrarian and acting like games using more storage space does not results in higher costs on the user is insufferable.

If a user only installs 10 games the required storage space would go from 1.5TB to only 250GB.

Currently a 250GB SSD costs 300$, 2TB is +1300$....

Re: Helldivers 2 devs slash install size from 154GB to 23GB

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Post by wilg »

akimbostrawman wrote: post #291
wilg wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

insufferable

yes, being a contrarian and acting like games using more storage space does not results in higher costs on the user is insufferable. If a user only installs 10 games the required storage space would go from 1.5TB to only 250GB. Currently a 250GB SSD costs 300$, 2TB is +1300$....

So uninstall some games, you’re not playing 10 at once. Plus, they fixed the issue and you’re still mad.

Re: Helldivers 2 devs slash install size from 154GB to 23GB

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Post by akimbostrawman »

wilg wrote: post #293
akimbostrawman wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, being a contrarian and acting like games using more storage space does not results in higher costs on the user is insufferable. If a user only installs 10 games the required storage space would go from 1.5TB to only 250GB. Currently a 250GB SSD costs 300$, 2TB is +1300$....

So uninstall some games, you’re not playing 10 at once. Plus, they fixed the issue and you’re still mad.

yeah just let me delete those +100GB game that most in the world will take days to redownload not to mention the times you are offline just because it makes you feel better about your mega corp bootlicking.

Re: Helldivers 2 devs slash install size from 154GB to 23GB

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Post by horsawlarway »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #176
horsawlarway wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No - because most users also don't check install size on games, and unlike renting overpriced storage from a cloud provider, users paid a fixed price for storage up front and aren't getting price gouged nearly as badly. So it's a trade that makes sense. Both entrants in the market are telling you that "install size isn't that important". If you asked the player base of this game whether they'd prefer a smaller size,…

So guide me through this thought process: You are saying, that most users don't check install size of their games. Which I am not convinced of, but might even be true. Lets assume this to be true for the moment. How does this contradict, what I stated? How does users being uninformed or unaware of technical details make it so that suddenly cramming the user's disk is "caring" instead of "not caring"? To me this does…

The general thrust of my argument is this:

"There is a limited amount of time, money, and effort that will be spent on any project. Successful enterprises focus those limited resources on the things that matter most to their customers. In this case, disk usage in the ~150gb range did not matter much in comparison to the other parts of the game, such as in-game content, missions, gameplay, etc."

We know this, because the game had a very successful release, despite taking 150gb to install.

I'm not saying they should have filled that 100 extra gb with mission content - I'm implying they made the right call in focusing their engineering manpower on creating content for the game (the ACTUAL gameplay) and not on optimizing storage usage for assets. That decision gave them a popular game which eventually had the resources to go optimize storage use.

Re: Helldivers 2 devs slash install size from 154GB to 23GB

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Post by braiamp »

wackget wrote: post #253

I just checked out this game on Steam and was pretty excited to buy it until I read that it requires a kernel-level anticheat which acts as a rootkit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NProtect_GameGuard Why on earth is any self-respecting person installing this on their machine?

FYI, it works on Linux, so as far as I'm aware, it only seems to care about you flying around.
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