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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by baconbrand »

AznHisoka wrote: post #191
zipy124 wrote: post #151

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Honestly the biggest failing is just SEO spam sites got too good at defeating the algorithm. The amount of bloody listicles or quora nonsense or backlink farming websties that come up in search is crazy.

For most commercial related terms, I suspect if you got rid of all “spanmy” results you would be left with almost nothing. No independent blogger is gonna write about the best credit card with travel points.

I had a coworker who kept up a blog about random purchases she’d made, where she would earn some money via affiliate links. I thought it was horrendously boring and weird, and the money made was basically pocket change, but she seemed to enjoy it. You might be surprised, people write about all sorts of things.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by masfuerte »

watwut wrote: post #224
zipy124 wrote: post #151

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Honestly the biggest failing is just SEO spam sites got too good at defeating the algorithm. The amount of bloody listicles or quora nonsense or backlink farming websties that come up in search is crazy.

Afaik they did not lost the fight. They stopped trying, because it was good for short term earnings

Yes, this is true. It was revealed in Google emails released during antitrust hearings. Google absolutely made a deliberate decision to enshittify their search results for short term gains.

Though maybe it's a long term gain. I know many normal (i.e. non-IT) people who've noticed the poor search results, yet they continue to use Google search.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by mh- »

fragmede wrote: post #169
1718627440 wrote: post #161

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This issue also exists with (so called) "smart" quotes.

Which, the iOS keyboard “helpfully” uses for you.

Pretty much the first thing I turn off on a new laptop (it's in the keyboard settings on iOS too.)

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by crazygringo »

never_inline wrote: post #110
permo-w wrote: post #29

besides for training future models, is this really such a big deal? most of the AI-gened text content is just replacing content-farm SEO-spam anyway. the same stuff that any half-awares person wouldn't have read in the past is now slightly better written, using more em dashes and instances of the word "delve". if you're consistently being caught out by this stuff then likely you need to improve your search hygiene, n…

A colleague sent me a confident ChatGPT formatted bug report. It misidentified what the actual bug was. But the tone was so confident, and he replied to my later messages using chat gpt itself, which insisted I was wrong. I don't like this future.

It's not the future. Tell him not to do that. If it happens again, bring it to the attention of his manager. Because that's not what he's being paid for. If he continues to do it, that's grounds for firing.

What you're describing is not the future. It's a fireable offense.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by Dilettante_ »

hoppp wrote: post #64
jrjfjgkrj wrote: post #47

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every human generation built upon the slop of the previous one but we appreciated that, we called it "standing on the shoulders of giants"

You can't build on slop because slop is a slippery slope

Maybe we'll have to slurp the slop so we don't slip on the slope.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by Dilettante_ »

walrusted wrote: post #59
jrjfjgkrj wrote: post #47

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every human generation built upon the slop of the previous one but we appreciated that, we called it "standing on the shoulders of giants"

the only structure you can build with slop is a burial mound

What is unhardened concrete but slop?

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Post by lostlogin »

brendoelfrendo wrote: post #269
Ferret7446 wrote: post #213

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I find this amusing, because it seems like Kagi's target audience dislikes this (politically polarized), and I as someone who is not Kagi's target audience likes this (politically neutral).

Why is supporting Yandex, who are involved in Russian politics and linked to the ruling regime, a neutral decision? That is very much a political decision, in the same way that working with US tech companies is a political decision. You need to decide what you're willing to tolerate and where your ethical lines are drawn; the alternative isn't neutrality, it's nihilism.

Solution: Kagi as it is, but with a ‘remove Yandex’ toggle. Even if it was a paid upgrade, I’d take it.
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