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Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Post by jmb99 »

ricardobeat wrote: post #256
felipeerias wrote: post #248

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I was experimenting with this technology almost a decade ago as part of my work as interaction designer: https://darker.ink/writings/Mobile-design-with-device-to-dev... It has a lot of potential but unfortunately it has been kept back until now by lack of support and interoperability.

Waayy back in 2009 we had Bump [1], which allowed transfer between devices and later web apps as well – by banging your phone against the spacebar. It worked 98% of the time and was faster than AirDrop is today, even though we only had 3G. Google acquired it and immediately killed it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_(application)

I can almost guarantee it wasn’t faster than airdrop (when it works) is today. I remember using bump on wifi, and it was limited to (shocking) wifi speeds at the time. I have as recently as last week transferred 1GB video files in under 20 seconds using airdrop. That simply was not possible in 2009.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Post by paranoidrobot »

rsync wrote: post #260
keane wrote: post #184

Possibly relevant comment from a few years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26893693 >AirDrop also shares your full name (seemingly the one associated with your Apple ID, not what you have set for yourself in your contacts), both by displaying it in the sharing interface on the involved devices and by attaching it as an extended attribute to uploaded files. >So if you AirDrop some files to your computer and…

"... then zip them up, anyone you send that zip to (a journalist, a public file-hosting site, w/e) will have your full legal name ..." A bit of a leap to assume that your Apple ID (or the name you give your iphone) is your full legal name ... or related to any name at all ... My apple ID is built specifically for just that phone and is jettisoned when I upgrade/change the phone. The apple ID is not related to my own…

If you're someone who's bought into the Apple ecosystem over multiple devices, or ave a partner or children who are also using devices in the Apple ecosystem, then your Apple ID is something that is very definitely tied to you and probably difficult to change/give up when you replace your phone.

I don't think it would be at all surprising to find that the vast majority of people use their legal name or something closely associated with their identity, and that it persists over multiple devices.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Post by nickphx »

jmb99 wrote: post #291
ricardobeat wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Waayy back in 2009 we had Bump [1], which allowed transfer between devices and later web apps as well – by banging your phone against the spacebar. It worked 98% of the time and was faster than AirDrop is today, even though we only had 3G. Google acquired it and immediately killed it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_(application)

I can almost guarantee it wasn’t faster than airdrop (when it works) is today. I remember using bump on wifi, and it was limited to (shocking) wifi speeds at the time. I have as recently as last week transferred 1GB video files in under 20 seconds using airdrop. That simply was not possible in 2009.

airdrop uses wifi direct... so

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Post by andscoop »

therein wrote: post #274
NaomiLehman wrote: post #202

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Just a tip - You can put any string as your name for your Apple ID. you can also change it at any time. I have it as Mac Book. It's not checked when making any credit card payment, AFAIK.

Just keep in mind, if you give your device to the Apple Store for repairs, they'll automatically expect the person who is picking up to have a matching ID to the Apple account. It was a fun misunderstanding to resolve when I went to pick up my repaired Macbook Pro and they expected my ID to say Mark Suckerberg. It was resolved relatively uneventfully but still had to get the manager over.

Another fun side effect, if you put an emoji in your name, you'll need to manually edit it every time you use Apple pay or it breaks the transaction.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Post by Analemma_ »

Eduard wrote: post #257
kayodelycaon wrote: post #159

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It’s great. I used it to move entire folders from my Mac to an account-less iPad with no Internet connection. I thought it was going to be slow, but hundreds of gigabytes was fully transferred in less than a minute.

> hundreds of gigabytes was fully transferred in less than a minute. yeah right

If it was a few large files as opposed to many small ones, this is totally believable. iPhones have Wi-Fi 6E chips, and an ad hoc network where the devices are right next to each other can actually reach the theoretical max speed of the protocol (as opposed to real-world connections to a base station, which never do). I've never measured it precisely but I've transferred ~1 GB disk images over AirDrop in a couple seconds.

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Post by Forgeties79 »

throwaway290 wrote: post #175
stronglikedan wrote: post #148

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Or react to images sent by those that can.

Is replying not enough? I always feel like react is a lazy way to avoid replying

A well placed react can be quality comedy. Also very easy way to communicate to somebody you saw what they sent/are doing what they asked.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Post by dcreater »

Gigachad wrote: post #270
_shantaram wrote: post #88

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> Cross platforms, really? So for example between a Blackberry and a Windows CE phone? Yes, it was part of the Bluetooth file transfer spec[0] and possible between any two devices that implemented it correctly. 0: https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/file-transfer...

It always kind of sucked though. You had to go through the pairing process, and then the transfer was incredibly slow since Bluetooth is very low bandwidth. It’s still a classic Apple “the open standard sucks so build a proprietary one that’s great but only on iPhone”

It worked and it was good enough

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Post by Affric »

ricardobeat wrote: post #256
felipeerias wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was experimenting with this technology almost a decade ago as part of my work as interaction designer: https://darker.ink/writings/Mobile-design-with-device-to-dev... It has a lot of potential but unfortunately it has been kept back until now by lack of support and interoperability.

Waayy back in 2009 we had Bump [1], which allowed transfer between devices and later web apps as well – by banging your phone against the spacebar. It worked 98% of the time and was faster than AirDrop is today, even though we only had 3G. Google acquired it and immediately killed it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_(application)

Bump was like magic.

The only app I have ever truly thought “this is the future”

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

creaturemachine wrote: post #37
OptionOfT wrote: post #5

The fact that I get excited about this is actually a good representation much vendor lock there is. We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out.

Ever since the iphone apple has been trying to make you believe files aren't a thing.

Yes - it’s not like they have had a literal app called “Files” since 2017 and if you install apps like Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Drive etc they all show up in the Files app and are choosable destinations from any app that uses the Files dialog…
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