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When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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The best time to manufacture vintage computer parts is 28 years ago, but the second-best time is today! :p

> The best time to manufacture vintage computer parts is 28 years ago, but the second-best time is today! :p What was so special about 1997?

The author mentions needing the parts for Apple Network Servers, so I went and checked when those stopped being sold, which was ~1997.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Tariffs are great. They protect the struggling domestic IT industry and gives it time to ramp up its production of vintage computer parts.

This explains why John Titor needed to come back for those IBM parts

John Titor COULD have purchased those IBM parts from the empires of Eastasia or Eurasia, but the tariffs would, 10 years from now, become so vicious and brutal that it was preferable to simply say "to hell with it, I'm taking my dual singularity 1976 corvette back in time to get that part, then maybe I'll do some online trolling on the trip back home"

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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Section 232 tariffs on steel and aluminum, which required me to fill out a UPS-specific form attesting to the steel and aluminum content I ordered a specialty lock and some keys valued at about $400, and paid an extra $400 in duties because of this. It's insane. Plot twist: I'm in Canada and was ordering a made-in-USA product from a US vendor. The duties were due to matching countertartiffs at the time. Sorry, but th…

At those prices it’d be cheaper to fly to the US and walk up to the company and buy it and fly back.

For many years it was cheaper to fly to the US, buy a MacBookPro and fly back to Australia than it was to buy one in Australia.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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> With policies like the dismantling of department of education, I do not see any initiative being taken to prepare the workforce for the future. The DOE was created by Carter, and there is no evidence in the last 45 years of it having any positive effect on education in the US.

Your argument is so baseless that even a template AI response can refute it. Yes, the DoE has been planting decade-scale workforce seeds since the Carter years—mostly via STEM/CTE programs that outlive administrations. Core idea: build adaptable skills (problem-solving, digital literacy, work-based learning) so kids & adults can pivot when AI/climate/whatever nukes today’s jobs. *Carter-era kickoff* - 1979: Science a…

Test scores haven't improved since 1980. Funding programs is not an accomplishment.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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>America had no idea how good they had it, in the before times. The downside is the insane consumption associated with that. Americans are responsible for an insane amount of pollution, far more per capita than any other people in the history of the world, much of which is tied to how easy/cheap it is to order shit we don't need. So, good if ya wanna buy cheap pollution, pretty bad if ya care about the next generatio…

America isn’t #1 in pollution per capita, that’s largely a function of per capita income and America is a long way from #1 on that metric. For example, we where ranked 16th in terms of CO2 per capita in 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di... We are just #3 by population and far richer per capita than the other 2.

It’s really cool to see progress in most developed nations in terms of co2 per capita emission today vs 25 years ago. Thank you for the reference.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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> For example, we where ranked 16th in terms of CO2 per capita in 2023 For home soil central north american CO2 production, sure. Things change if such rankings were to account for the CO2 production as a result of satisifying US consumption habits .. the "benefit" of having off shored industry to China is the final goods come to the USofA while the emissions and waste of industry occur elsewhere.

America has huge trade deficit from China but America imports more from the EU (605.8) and Mexico (505.9) than China (438.9) followed closely by Canada (412.7). At the same time just under 15% of China’s exports are going to the US, so America really isn’t a large fraction of their emissions. In terms net imports vs exports staple agricultural products have a very high carbon footprint per dollar and America exports…

It’s also important to note that America is largely a service economy not a goods economy.

For every American citizen importing lumber from Canada there’re a thousand Canadian citizens who have a Netflix subscription.

Looking only at trade deficit is purposely blinding yourself.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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I had this happen with FedEx. They released the package and delivered it without me paying. I submitted a dispute, which they say could take up to 6 months to process. I hate having this hang over my head, as I don’t want anything going to collections, but figured if I paid it I would have a harder time getting my money back. Mine was for a watch I got serviced. My own watch that I shipped out being returned to me… n…

There's something called a "carnet" for that case.[1] When something is leaving the country temporarily but coming back, there's a way to register that. This comes up a lot if you're doing trade shows or performances. [1] https://www.cbp.gov/trade/programs-administration/entry-summ...

better not use UPS; goods moving under ATA carnet are on their prohibited list

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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There's concern that if all our chips come from one country, they could cut the supply off and make demands. That's called an "embargo". It's also done to protect local industries, hence the term "protectionism". For example, Canada's large tariffs on American milk are there to protect the local Canadian milk producers. AFAIK, Trump's tariffs are meant to serve the following purposes: 1. so critical supplies, like ch…

I am Canadian. Since the USA started their economic war with Canada, I changed some habits, like my other fellow canadians. 1) Stopped buying USA wine totally 2) Canceled our plans for vacations in the USA 3) Stopped buying USA orange (or any citrus) juice 4) Carefully check the provenance of any fruit or vegetable in the supermarket and actively avoid anything that comes from the USA ... and the list goes on. I am n…

A bunch of easily psyopped morons aren't a large enough majority of the general consumer populace to be worth considering. For every 1 of someone like you, there's 50 people who blindly grab the cheapest product off the shelf that gets the job done.

The presence of a few nationalistic morons doesn't wholly negate the goals mentioned by GP, and in fact, may be more important than ever.

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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post #239

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America has huge trade deficit from China but America imports more from the EU (605.8) and Mexico (505.9) than China (438.9) followed closely by Canada (412.7). At the same time just under 15% of China’s exports are going to the US, so America really isn’t a large fraction of their emissions. In terms net imports vs exports staple agricultural products have a very high carbon footprint per dollar and America exports…

It’s also important to note that America is largely a service economy not a goods economy. For every American citizen importing lumber from Canada there’re a thousand Canadian citizens who have a Netflix subscription. Looking only at trade deficit is purposely blinding yourself.

Companies are also heavily cooking the books with IP and trade.

Netflix Canada Inc and Netflix Services Canada Ulc two local companies are collecting payments in Canada and they don’t want to look like they have any profits whatsoever. https://insights.greyb.com/netflix-subsidiaries-and-acquisit...

Re: When UPS charged me a $684 tariff on $355 of vintage computer parts

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There's concern that if all our chips come from one country, they could cut the supply off and make demands. That's called an "embargo". It's also done to protect local industries, hence the term "protectionism". For example, Canada's large tariffs on American milk are there to protect the local Canadian milk producers. AFAIK, Trump's tariffs are meant to serve the following purposes: 1. so critical supplies, like ch…

There is no way Taiwan would ever embargo the US re:chips. Making and shipping chips all over the world is what keeps Taiwan safe. They would never jeopardize that.

What happens when China finally decides to take back what they believe is 'rightfully theirs' and stops it for them? It's not exactly a position you want to be in.
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