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Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by FabHK »

grogenaut wrote: post #177
zahlman wrote: post #44

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Okay, but we're also specifically told to wait for ambulances because they can administer certain forms of care within the vehicle, right?

Like most things, it gets pretty complicated. I went through 200 hours of training (EMT) which essentially helps me sort into what makes me go safe, go fast to a medic en route or a hospital, and go fast to a hospital (where a paramedic can't help much or at all). The goal of all Emergency medical personnel is to get people to definitive care (not EMS). Asking a lay person to know what a BLS (non-EMT fire & police),…

> Like most things, it gets pretty complicated.

As far as I know, there are also different paradigms for ambulances: "scoop and run" (ie stabilise the patient and take them to a hospital ASAP) vs "stay and play" (try the first line of treatment there before taking the patient to the hospital).

Different countries (with different urban environments, distances, etc.) use different approaches.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by nozzlegear »

boxerab wrote: post #286
nozzlegear wrote: post #100

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If Canada just made those illegal immigrants legal, they could volunteer for EMS training, work on ambulance crews and staff hospitals. Open the borders and let the people work god damnit!

lol - given the politics here, I almost did not catch the sarcasm of your post

I can see how it looks like sarcasm, but, trust me, it's not. Illegal immigration is just a symptom of bad bureaucracy and a system that doesn't let in legal immigrants fast enough.

Let me state unequivocally: immigration is good, borders are dumb.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by nozzlegear »

boxerab wrote: post #287
Dettul wrote: post #203

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In fairness it is actually causing a lot of problems in the West...

I would say this is one of the mortal dangers currently facing the West - more particularly, importing people who hate the West and would like to see it become like their failed origin states.

I would say that your contrived scenario is just a failure to assimilate immigrants, and, frankly, a skill issue. The US does not have this problem, and it's no coincidence that it's colloquially known as the "Great Melting Pot" of cultures.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by blobbers »

switchbak wrote: post #165
bonsai_spool wrote: post #143

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> This is the laziest, most egregious "WeLl AkShUaLlY!!!" comment I've seen in a little while. Like, really embarrassing. And yet I haven't heard how this affects this person's ability to be an endocrinologist. Most of any job is routine busywork—and if ethical purity is the requirement to hold a job that impacts the lives of the public, we may never have a politician (or hospital chief) for the rest of humanity. I a…

"all of this is a non sequitur" ... I'm just speechless here. You're so completely off base there's not even any point arguing with you.

Haha; I have been trying to and then realized it was senseless. I actually wonder if this an ai designed to troll.

I could see someone using a prompt that says something like “make a poor argument based on ______ and repeatedly alter it in further comments. Use words from a list of logical fallacies incorrectly, make yourself sound credible.”

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by blobbers »

svnt wrote: post #190
bonsai_spool wrote: post #171

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> "all of this is a non sequitur" ... I'm just speechless here. You're so completely off base there's not even any point arguing with you. I am very specifically responding to the post I saw when I made my post. Here is an example for the HN crowd. "I really dislike my pointy-haired-boss project manager. He is unreasonable and terrible at management. I learned that he was investigated at a previous job in computer sc…

I also replied above, so at risk of overextending myself in this thread: you are either too lacking in discernment to effectively have this conversation, or you are willfully arguing in bad faith. You are describing completely different scenarios.

The twist ending is that this commenter IS Sophie Jamal, the endocrinologist in question!!!

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by blobbers »

bonsai_spool wrote: post #160
prmph wrote: post #128

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But the doctor likely makes the same money for less effort that contributes to the patient dying, because it's hard to prove the link.

> But the doctor likely makes the same money for less effort that contributes to the patient dying, because it's hard to prove the link. This makes no sense with how endocrinology works. And OP did not give any evidence of malpractice, so we have no reason to believe that less effort or patient risk regarding the practice of medicine was involved.

Are you unable to engage with the full context of the situation? You repeatedly refer to the OP in your comments but there is a much larger context.

Simple logic, see if you can follow:

1. Sophie publishes flawed research (nitroglycerin for osteoporosis)

2. Sophie practices medicine and gives patients nitroglycerin for osteoporosis, with knowledge that her study is a lie. This causes harm to patients, because she knowingly gives them a therapy that doesn’t work. This is malpractice.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by boxerab »

nozzlegear wrote: post #292
boxerab wrote: post #286

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lol - given the politics here, I almost did not catch the sarcasm of your post

I can see how it looks like sarcasm, but, trust me, it's not. Illegal immigration is just a symptom of bad bureaucracy and a system that doesn't let in legal immigrants fast enough. Let me state unequivocally: immigration is good, borders are dumb.

lol

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by rich_sasha »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #149
rich_sasha wrote: post #132

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My cousin's 3yo daughter stopped breathing one night, woke up struggling for breath, turning blue. They called the ambulance. Dispatcher said, 3 hr wait, and pretty please get off the phone, as there's a queue of callers. She started breathing again after a few minutes and seems fine, but they left the UK not long after that.

The dispatcher must not have understood right? This is like evil levels of incompetence otherwise, because the system can’t possibly be designed to do that right? So the dispatcher must have been in the wrong, but to make the dispatcher not completely evil we have to make her merely stupid and/or careless. That’s terrifying. Where did they go to if you don’t mind me asking?

As I understand, the dispatcher simply said there ain't no ambulances around. It was 2024 - so well after COVID (though the NHS never really recovered, it seems).

They took her to the nearest hospital, in Oxford, next morning. She seemed fine. Doctors said, can't reproduce the bug, ticket closed.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by boxerab »

nozzlegear wrote: post #293
boxerab wrote: post #287

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I would say this is one of the mortal dangers currently facing the West - more particularly, importing people who hate the West and would like to see it become like their failed origin states.

I would say that your contrived scenario is just a failure to assimilate immigrants, and, frankly, a skill issue. The US does not have this problem, and it's no coincidence that it's colloquially known as the "Great Melting Pot" of cultures.

Good lord, take a look at Dearborn, Michigan, then get back to me.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Post by vondur »

canucker2016 wrote: post #188
starkparker wrote: post #12

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-paramedic-sta... > Last year, Toronto paramedics reported that in 2023 there were 1,200 occasions where no ambulances were available to respond to an emergency call. That was up from only 29 occasions in 2019. > CUPE Local 416, the union representing 1,400 paramedics working in Toronto, has also reported high instances of burnout in recent years.

There were several reports during the pandemic about lack of ambulance service in Toronto: - 2022 - https://www.blogto.com/city/2022/01/toronto-ran-out-ambulanc... - 2023 - https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/10/paramedics-raise-alarm-c... from the 2025 Program Summary for Toronto Paramedic Services, https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/8d5d-2025-... : - Page 3 - Avg 90th Percentile response times have gone…

> staffing is up more than 50% in that time, while number of patient transports is up just 10% during that same timeframe

That’s some pretty bad statistics, something fundamental is wrong with their EMT system.

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