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I mean, we shut down the government and so now we're just waiting (a year) for the midterms. What else do you expect people to do? Among other things, people are constantly challenging Trump in court and have reversed many of his policies. For example, my passport needed to be renewed this year and he signed an executive order saying I couldn't get an accurate one. The ACLU sued him and now I have an accurate passpor…

I'm from the UK and don't understand what you mean by accurate passport? Would you mind explaining?

https://www.aclu.org/cases/orr-v-trump

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Well, half us Americans did:) The other half is still in total disbelief

Disbelief, maybe. But you have to own it now. Once is an aberration. Twice is your democracy speaking.

Eggs were so expensive though. /s

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It's incredible that American corruption can happen out in the open like this. And this isn't a uniquely Trump phenomena. Political pardons are an amazing thing, and they have been used by presidents for a long time now with extremely little scrutiny and no possibility for repercussions. The executive being able to overrule the judiciary is an absolutely jaw-dropping American institution. So much for checks and balan…

There's an argument the prosecution was political. See: https://x.com/balajis/status/1981423831572238856

Sorry, is this person comparing the rights and immunities of a head of a sovereign nation to those of a CEO of a company? I don't think France, as a sovereign country, is completely bound by US law whereas binance, when it is operating in US jurisdiction is. I'm not totally familiar with US finance law but I'm pretty sure a more fair comparison would be to other banks where KYC requirements and anti money laundering rules can be strict. From what I read about the prosecution, Binance ignored many warning signs from their own executives about the possibility and the lack of controls within their platform to comply with the law.

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I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

Hi, Trump voter here. I'm NOT fine with this.

Serious set of questions here from someone desperately trying to understand people who voted for Trump and how to have conversations with them that can be productive. None of them are meant to be insulting or insinuate anything.

To me, this sort of behavior just seems par for the course for how he has been acting since before his presidency. Did you follow his record in business and politics closely prior to voting for him? If so, what mitigating factors were there that let you still feel comfortable in voting for him?

Is this an isolated source of issue with him? Part of a broader trend? In either case, is it/these a big enough deal for him to lose your support moving forward? For the rest of the political party supporting him?

If there has been a shift in your ability to support him, what is it that broke the camel's back?

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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I personally do not know any Americans that are as you described. 1/3 of Americans are as you describe, 1/3 are definitely not at all as you described, and another 1/3 is too apathetic to care about anything. The recent "No Kings" protests were the largest in US history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstra...

> 1/3 is too apathetic to care about anything I think at least some of that 1/3 has their own problems that prevent them from being able to devote energy to politics

I know of way too many people that "aren't political" or just don't want to think about it. That's not the same as "having their own problems", that's juvenile behavior.

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At this point, I wouldn't touch crypto with a 10 ft pole. What happens when everyone recognizes that the whole thing has turned into a money laundering grift? Who's going to give you anything for your bozo bucks? At this rate, it's not going to take long.

I think like, 90% of the crypto trading volume is by people who know it's all a grift, but are hoping to get rich while the music is still playing. People knowingly buy into pump & dumps, gambling that they're on the early (pump) side and hoping to get out before the dump. People will happily collect commissions selling products they know are scams or will happily collect management fees for parking investor's capita…

> People knowingly buy into pump & dumps, gambling that they're on the early (pump) side and hoping to get out before the dump

I recently heard of a real estate person that wound up buying an entire neighborhood around one of the stadiums for next year's World Cup. The impetus for this decision was to jack up the rates during the tournament, and then sell them off after. Another person thinks renting a bunch of Teslas and then placing them Touro will be another get rich idea during the World Cup. There are all sorts of people that think they are smarter than everyone else and are so confident they just cannot think of any ways their idea will fail.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

It's not half. I think close to 32% were fully supportive (voted for him) and around 36% sat at home or abstained, but in practicality they basically said they were fine with whoever won. I don't know which is worse, that 32% were in support of the corrupt leader or that 68% in total are either supported him or didn't care enough to support anyone else

> around 36% sat at home or abstained, but in practicality they basically said they were fine with whoever won.

Or, they were not fine with whoever won.

We've got two abismal parties to choose from. Yes, there's an agument for voting for the lesser of two evils, but it's not a great one.

I'd like to believe at least some of those 36% would vote for a decent candidate/party. But once you lose faith in the system, and realize that it doesn't represent you, you might just stop participating in it.

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