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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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zaptheimpaler wrote: post #237
Podrod wrote: post #36

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

> And game devs throwing random shit into My Documents was also fun. I hate this problem with all OSes. We have folders that started out being places for users to put things like Pictures, Documents & home, but over time they get filled with crap from software and it's difficult to find your own files. We should have had a "program-files" subfolder or something by default in all these places to separate things that a…

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by Delk »

rootusrootus wrote: post #234
Podrod wrote: post #36

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

I've been a Mac & Linux user since about 2007 or so, and I had no idea what Windows had become. Then a couple weeks ago I caved and built my son a Windows gaming PC. Egads, Windows is annoying! Even more so than I remember! I'm amazed that people actually put up with it for their daily driver. Right on schedule, my son came to me yesterday evening and asked what he should do about the backup warning. It didn't give a…

On their own devices, lots of non-power users probably just accept whatever Windows suggests. Enterprise versions of Windows either don't have a lot of the crap or they allow it to be disabled by company IT.

Techie users might just find tweaks online that allows disabling dark patterns on their devices.

I don't know how people who care but aren't techie enough to install workarounds (or to tell good ones from bad ones) deal.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by shmerl »

sebtron wrote: post #289
shmerl wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably used Nvidia and some outdated distro with a bad DE on top. Not something you should be using. Using X11 is DOA anyway, so you can figure out what was wrong in your case and use better options.

No, AMD. I had issues on the latest Debian, released this summer, with KDE. X11 works perfectly fine. I would be happy with wayland too, if it worked. And in fact I use it on my other device.

What kind of issues though with what GPU? I'm using Debian testing, it all works fine with AMD and KDE Plasma Wayland session.

With AMD, always make sure to use latest kernel, Mesa and amdgpu firmware.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by Telaneo »

barbs wrote: post #266

I've been running mostly Linux (with some macOS) as a daily driver for the past 15 years and have seen more and more articles like this pop up on HN over time. I've felt for a while that Linux is more user-centric, but it seems like Windows 11 is a whole other level of user-hostile, to the point where even average users seem to be catching on. My own father managed to set up Linux on his computer without any promptin…

> I'm wondering if there's a market out there for helping regular computer users switch to linux?

I'm more feeling like average users are just jumping straight to a phone (or maybe a tablet) as their main computing experience, and their PC are either pushed out of their life completely, as their other devices can do its job while being less hostile, or their PC is reduced to doing only the tasks which are either impossible or very-very inconvenient on a phone or tablet (PC games, long-form writing, content creation, Excel, et cetera).

Linux has some of these remaining niches nailed down pretty well, but still not well enough that the choice is obvious (Proton is really good, but kernel-anti-cheat is still a thing. Libreoffice is good for simple writing, but not for the Office power-user), and even then, this is really just the crumbs that are left after most users just exit the PC market as a whole, since they figured out the don't need one in the first place any more.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by vee-kay »

codingrightnow wrote: post #272
Podrod wrote: post #36

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

I just bought my first windows 11 computer. Why are my personal folders like pictures and documents under a OneDrive folder? This is insane. Going to see how Ubuntu runs on it and hopefully never look back.

In Win10/Win11, you can move your user folders to another partition or folder path.

Right-click on them in Explorer, go to Properties, click on Location tab, and type/select the new path for them, click Move... then that folder and its contents will be moved to new locate.

I've movier following to D: partition as root-level folders: Contacts, Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Favorites, Links, Music, Pictures, Saved Games, Searches, Videos.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

9x39 wrote: post #217
3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I will at least throw in the Group Policy tweak when I have the chance. Thanks for the tip.

There is almost certainly a registry key you can set as well. 5 ways to do something, none documented officially.

Yeah for myself Pro licensing and domain is the way to go so I can configure Windows similar to my work network at home. But for people who have Home licenses I just set the registry keys. Windows Home doesn't have a UI to set policy, but it does obey it if the keys are there.

(This is a must-have to turn off web browser antifeatures as well, you can't block extension install from the browser settings for any browser but you can by policy.)

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by Telaneo »

crazygringo wrote: post #165

There are few things that irritate me more than the gradual replacing of "Yes / No" with "Yes / Maybe later". It's so disrespectful, infantilizing, and paternalistic. But you see it everywhere now -- Microsoft, Apple, mainstream respected news and media sites constantly asking if you want to use their app instead of their site, or upgrade your plan. And I don't understand why . It's hard to believe it increases conve…

> It's hard to believe it increases conversion.

It isn't for me. I see people being converted just to stop the nagging, or just doing it on auto-pilot. It worries me, but it makes it pretty obvious why the corps aren't asking for proper consent. They don't care, they don't need to, and it's clearly working.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by RHSeeger »

rootusrootus wrote: post #234
Podrod wrote: post #36

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

I've been a Mac & Linux user since about 2007 or so, and I had no idea what Windows had become. Then a couple weeks ago I caved and built my son a Windows gaming PC. Egads, Windows is annoying! Even more so than I remember! I'm amazed that people actually put up with it for their daily driver. Right on schedule, my son came to me yesterday evening and asked what he should do about the backup warning. It didn't give a…

My Mac tells me 5+ times per day that it's unable to backup something or another because I'm not logged into the Apple cloud or whatever it's called. And there's not obvious way to make it stop.

This is not unique to Windows.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by vee-kay »

zwnow wrote: post #263
rootusrootus wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been a Mac & Linux user since about 2007 or so, and I had no idea what Windows had become. Then a couple weeks ago I caved and built my son a Windows gaming PC. Egads, Windows is annoying! Even more so than I remember! I'm amazed that people actually put up with it for their daily driver. Right on schedule, my son came to me yesterday evening and asked what he should do about the backup warning. It didn't give a…

People dont care about their operating system. Most Mac users never learn Mac and most Windows users never learn windows. They use their computers for emails, some presentations and occasional gaming. They dont want to learn different kinds of software. Which is fine. For most people its just a power tool they never read the manual for. They dont even know what other tools there are so they dont know that life could…

I just wish MacOS would allow me to have the Minimize, Maximize/Restore,Close buttons on top-right corner (default in Windows), rather than top-left (which is counter-intuitive for right-handed users, using the mouse).

Even Linux allows such basic customization.

If Apple allowed this type of user-friendly customisation on MacOS, I suspect a lot of Windows users will migrate to Mac.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by bigyabai »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #276
bigyabai wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is very serious. I love the way Catalina and Mojave looks; dark mode or light mode, it just screams "professional" at the top of it's lungs. Big Sur is, somehow, the exact opposite. Corners are rounded off as if they could hurt someone, and margins are padded more than a cell in solitary confinement. Space is wasted everywhere. It's Fischer-Price design philosophy and I'm hardly the only one to point it out. In a…

I think that "serious" is not the right word here. But rather, saying "it's like a toy" is not constructive . When someone says "it looks like a toy" that tells me nothing about what they don't like about it. Saying "I don't like the rounded corners and wasted space" is something concrete you can have a discussion about, so it's better to use that kind of phrasing.

Toy design isn't objectively bad. Windows XP has many colorful, misshapen buttons and they're amazing for the vision-impaired, same goes for Apple's Aqua UI. Fischer-Price design language is arguably why the iPhone is so popular, when you deploy it with intent the results can be spectacular.

What is the intent of dumbing-down the Mac design language? iOS superfans already have devices to use, the Mac has to compete in the professional segment of the market, not the casual one. The only motivation I can see is to enforce solidarity with VisionOS, which by most accounts seems to be a professional flop too. An ecosystem shouldn't aim for superficial similarity across devices, each experience should enforce their unique strengths/weaknesses in the UI and then network their state to each-other in the background. Apple used to know this.

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