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Re: Kagi News

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Post by dstroot »

lblume wrote: post #43
baggachipz wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Several sections have Trump in the headline. I wish there was a way to block that word like I do in Lemmy. That guy monopolizes the headlines which only makes him more powerful, and annoys me. I'll see whether I can take this when I use this new app, which I otherwise think is great.

Surely it isn't that simple. Even a person who thoroughly condemns Trump's hijacking of media systems and attentions must acknowledge that if international politics are at all relevant for you, some actions of the US president should be seen by you, if only in exceptional circumstances.

This is the issue. I feel bombarded by trump's firehouse of bullshit, but some of it has to be important, right? So how can Kagi create a "smart" trump filter that focuses on the most important stuff and reduces the firehose. I tried Kagi news and created a "trump" filter and *every story in the US section was gone*.

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Post by ascagnel_ »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #13

> One daily update: We publish once per day around noon UTC, creating a natural endpoint to news consumption. This is a deliberate design choice that turns news from an endless habit into a contained ritual. I might not agree with all decisions Kagi makes, but this is gold. Endless scrolling is a big indicator that you're a consumer not a customer.

This is one of the big reasons I've gravitated towards a reverse-chronological feed that takes you from the past to the present -- at some point you hit a natural end, which is a natural prompt to go do something else. I've picked up Reeder[0] as a feed reader, since it can aggregate a bunch of sources (chiefly RSS, but also Mastodon, BlueSky, reddit, etc) and presents it in such a timeline without pressure to read everything.

[0] https://reederapp.com

Re: Kagi News

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Post by dani_kagi »

mr_machine wrote: post #126

I'd like to install and try this, but I don't use Google Play and it's not in F-Droid. Wish they'd just make an APK available.

Thanks for the feedback, we are looking into providing the app without any Play services dependencies.

Re: Kagi News

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Post by lblume »

MostlyStable wrote: post #82
baggachipz wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Several sections have Trump in the headline. I wish there was a way to block that word like I do in Lemmy. That guy monopolizes the headlines which only makes him more powerful, and annoys me. I'll see whether I can take this when I use this new app, which I otherwise think is great.

This comment[0] suggests that they have some kind of a filter [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45427513

Can verify. Settings > Content Filter > Custom Keywords. You can choose whether to hide the stories completely or blur them instead.

Re: Kagi News

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Post by baggachipz »

freediver wrote: post #284
baggachipz wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Several sections have Trump in the headline. I wish there was a way to block that word like I do in Lemmy. That guy monopolizes the headlines which only makes him more powerful, and annoys me. I'll see whether I can take this when I use this new app, which I otherwise think is great.

It is possible to block news by keywords, see settings (I believe in the web app currently only)

Awesome, looking forward to it being in the mobile apps if possible. I like to think of it as blocking spammy domains ;)

Re: Kagi News

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Post by __jonas »

viraptor wrote: post #261
__jonas wrote: post #23

Just to be clear I'm understanding correctly: This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks? I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, whi…

> when you ask an LLM to point to 'sources' for the information it outputs, Services listing sources, like Kagi news, perplexity and others don't do that. They start with known links and run LLMs on that content. They don't ask LLMs to come up with links based on the question.

That is what I mean yeah, I’m not saying it’s fabricating sources from training data, that would obviously be impossible for news articles, I’m saying if you give it a list of articles A, B and C including their content in the context and ask ‘what is the foo of bar?’ and it responds ‘the foo of bar is baz, source: article B paragraph 2’, that does not tell you whether the output is actually correct, or contained in the cited source at all, unless you manually verify it.

Re: Kagi News

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Post by dani_kagi »

guilamu wrote: post #38

Looks pretty good at first sight. However, I set my feed up on the web app, seeing that it should sync on "all my devices". Next, I installed the Android app, and mybe I missed something, but I don't see any way to connect to my Kagi account. So much for syncing...

Thanks for the feedback, it's on our list.

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Post by instagib »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #152
whatamidoingyo wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when you ask an LLM to point to 'sources' for the information it outputs, as far as I know there is no guarantee that those are correct A lot of times when I ask for a source, I get broken links. I'm not sure if the links existed at one point, or if the LLM is just hallucinating where it thinks a link should exist. CDN libraries, for example. Or sources to specific laws.

> A lot of times when I ask for a source, They'll do pretty much everything you ask of them, so unless the text actually come from some source (via tool calls, injecting content into the context or other way), they'll make up a source rather than doing nothing, unless prompted otherwise.

On my llm, I have a prompt that condenses down to:

For every line of text output, give me a full MLA annotated source. If you cannot then say your source does not exist or you are generating information based on multiple sources then give me those sources. If you cannot do that, print that you need more information to respond properly.

Every new model I mess with needs a slightly different prompt due to safeguards or source protections. It is interesting when it lists a source that I physically own and their training data is deteriorated.

Re: Kagi News

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Post by khaleel-kagi »

patrakov wrote: post #74

Feedback (if someone reads it): offer an option to translate everything to English. For example, news from/about Russia are in Russian, and thus I can't meaningfully share them to non-Russians. That's despite the appropriate HTTP header: Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5

Hey, thanks patrakov for trying the app! Users can actually change the content language of the app from Settings. All stories will be automatically translated to their preferred language.

When you share a Russian story with a non-russian speaker, they will still be able to read the story in their own set Content Language in the Settings. We're working on improving the UX of language, sharing a story, and more.

Re: Kagi News

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Post by khaleel-kagi »

joshstrange wrote: post #45

I wish there was a way to look at a previous day's news. I can't seem to find any buttons/UI that lets you look at news from any day but today.

We've Time Travel feature coming soon to both the web and mobile apps. It'll allow you to browse the stories from any date since we started aggregating news ;)
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