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Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by claytongulick »

nomel wrote: post #143
baby wrote: post #108

I switched to Android last year, from being a long time iPhone user, just for the fold. I got the google pixel fold 9 pro. I also got lucky as it's right when all the cool AI integration started (and it sounds like it doesn't really work on Apple). My first hand experience is that I will probably never be able to go back to a non-folding phone. The ability to get a small tablet on demand anywhere (subway, train, bed,…

How has the reliability been? Here's part of the list of warnings I saw when I setup a Samsung Fold for someone else: > Don't press the screen or under display camera with a sharp object such as a pen or fingernail. Doing so can result in scratches, dents, or damage to the screen. > This phone isn't dust-proof. Exposure to small particles such as sand may cause damage. I live close to the beach, so very often have a…

I actually went back to the s25 from the fold because of this.

When you get sand in the hinges, it's pretty annoying and difficult to clean out. I was always nervous about taking my phone out on the beach.

That's tough living in Florida, the whole state is basically a giant sand bar.

I also actually didn't like the fold part. Most of what I do on a phone is read Kindle or browse the web.

For Kindle, the phone was uncomfortable to hold with one hand for long periods to read.

Web browsing was worse than a normal phone because many common sites like weather.com have responsive design that get very confused and unusable with that "in-between" size. The display on the outside of the phone that you can use while it's closed was so tiny and narrow it was unusable as well.

The whole thing was heavy and clunky feeling. (This was the most recent galaxy fold, the pixel one may be better)

I was pretty happy to go back to a normal form factor.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by incone123 »

abandonliberty wrote: post #159
lapetitejort wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Riffing on a comment I saw on one of LinusTechTip's "Switch to Android/Apple" videos: phone users misinterpret familiarity with intuitiveness and polish. Android is "intuitive" to me because I've been using it more than a decade. It's "polished" because I'm blind to the rough edges.

I was really surprised when I first got an iPhone. After all the hype about it being so intuitive and polished, it was just different. Some things better, some things worse. But Apple devices take a bit longer to go obsolete, and seem just a tiny bit less invasive as they don't rely on an advertising model for revenue.

I went from OnePlus to Nothing recently. Differences in Android skin felt like rough edges at first.

Google is collecting data but I do not see adverts in the OS.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

baby wrote: post #108

I switched to Android last year, from being a long time iPhone user, just for the fold. I got the google pixel fold 9 pro. I also got lucky as it's right when all the cool AI integration started (and it sounds like it doesn't really work on Apple). My first hand experience is that I will probably never be able to go back to a non-folding phone. The ability to get a small tablet on demand anywhere (subway, train, bed,…

> the battery kinda suck

Probably because of all the AI integration stuff. You don't get something for nothing. Turn on battery saver, data saver, and decrease brightness (and refresh rate if possible). Still, You have three screens worth of volume taking away space for a larger battery. That's the deal with folders.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #145
wffurr wrote: post #119

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>> android also doesn't have the same polish as iOS As someone who switched from using Android for many years to iOS for the iPhone Mini, this seems to be all about what you're used to. The lack of polish on iOS for many features, notifications and quick settings first among them, makes me crazy but not enough to deal with a huge phone. Android's had the notification shade with integrated settings since just about da…

Also just how important certain features are to you personally. For me notifications are generally more annoying than they are useful, and this doesn’t change under Android. In fact the emphasis that Android puts on them in the shade really sucks for me because it’d much rather have the quick settings pane fully visible than room for a couple more notifications — having to swipe again to see all the toggles is super…

Just block all your apps from generating notifications. Long press the ones that show up in the pane and turn them off permanently. Eventually you will have them all eliminated.

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Post by fortyseven »

phatfish wrote: post #277
yreg wrote: post #261

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I never ever had a problem of not being sure how to go back in an iOS app, so I don't see why a dedicated button is such a missing feature. Polish is also about visual consistency and Android is behind on that front.

iOS is filled with UI junk at this point. Not having a consistent way to go back is the least of my problems when attempting to use my wife's iPhone. It is the most obvious though, having to tap right at the top left (usually) of the screen for the most frequently used action is incomprehensible.

I dabbled a bit with iOS. I'm a long time Android fan, and I was curious, so I gave it a shot. And you're absolutely right. Even if you've come to expect backwards navigation to be in the top left, how the hell is that convenient? Assuming a right-handed individual, that means you have to stretch all the way up there or bring your left hand into play. And if you're left-handed, you still need to reach all the way up at the top of the screen. It's baffling. But we'll have people here defending it, for some unknown reason. Probably because they're used to it. Just like I'm not used to it as an Android guy so I find it repulsive. But I can also back it up with just the constraints of the human hand.

For what it's worth, I don't have the navigation bar at the bottom. I just use gestures, so anywhere I swipe off screen to on screen, it's considered a back gesture. Which, once you get used to it, you cannot go back. Well, you can. By swiping. ;}

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Post by moi2388 »

dingnuts wrote: post #223
whycome wrote: post #202

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iOS must have changed some things related to keyboards. On an iPhone many years ago it was definitely a better experience. I’m not sure if some sort of predictive text gets in the way or what. Or maybe something with the spacing. Or it also seems like some sort of thread priority issue because there are times where I can distinctly tell that there’s some sort of input lag that’s messing with it. Gboard is crippled on…

today I was texting and Google Messages began to lag. Why DOES everything seem to get worse? I can hear the Doctorow fans coming out of the woodwork to tell me it's "enshittification" but that's a cute conspiracy theory that doesn't explain at all why Google would allow Messages to have a memory leak after working fine for years. There's no profit motive to making a core application shittier. We have to dig deeper, b…

Because of agile and ci/cd practices. Meaning you ship features to production with at best a/b testing. Never mind writing tests.

Of course written by some cheap devs from India or Bangladesh.

If the code was even still written by a human at this point.

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Post by dijit »

abandonliberty wrote: post #159
lapetitejort wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Riffing on a comment I saw on one of LinusTechTip's "Switch to Android/Apple" videos: phone users misinterpret familiarity with intuitiveness and polish. Android is "intuitive" to me because I've been using it more than a decade. It's "polished" because I'm blind to the rough edges.

I was really surprised when I first got an iPhone. After all the hype about it being so intuitive and polished, it was just different. Some things better, some things worse. But Apple devices take a bit longer to go obsolete, and seem just a tiny bit less invasive as they don't rely on an advertising model for revenue.

in the very beginning, there was a lot of animation stutters on android. The UI was much less consistent, and the design language of different programs varied pretty wildly. This gave me at the time, a feeling of a distinct lack of polish..

I would say, though that in the year of our Lord 2025, largely hardware is good enough that the animations never stutter on android anymore, an android applications have largely converged on similar UI paradigms.

So I think the issue with criticism is that people hold in the heads for a very long time, I mean a clear example is how people think Linux is extremely user hostile, despite most metrics of what makes something user hostile being significantly superior on most widely available in the next distributions except of course the power user focused ones. Whereas Windows 11 and macOS clearly do not give a shit about breaking muscle memory or having UI inconsistency.

Criticisms live longer in our minds than they do in reality.

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Post by thewebguyd »

jajko wrote: post #272
wffurr wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> android also doesn't have the same polish as iOS As someone who switched from using Android for many years to iOS for the iPhone Mini, this seems to be all about what you're used to. The lack of polish on iOS for many features, notifications and quick settings first among them, makes me crazy but not enough to deal with a huge phone. Android's had the notification shade with integrated settings since just about da…

My wife is a doctor but exact opposite of power user for phones and technology overall. She switched from android to iphone 13 mini when it came out, I recommended it to her and thought Apple is ideal platform for her. Bough her ipods pro too, chargers and so on. The only, literally only thing she liked was the seamless integration of airpods with phone, hated literally everything else about the hardware and mainly i…

I've long said that if Apple didn't have their ecosystem lock-in, they wouldn't be able to compete on a level playing field.

I like a lot of Apple's hardware, and as of now I'm still "all in" on their ecosystems. I have the phone, watch, AirPods, iPad, macbook both for work and personal use, even an Apple TV box.

I can't stand iOS, but the only reason its "better" for me is just because I take advantage of all the other Apple devices and proprietary protocols + I prefer Apple Music over Spotify.

If third parties were allowed to also use AirDrop, shareplay/airplay, clipboard sharing, etc. then I'd dump my iPhone in a heartbeat. But, I love my apple silicon macs too much to get rid of those, and KDE connect isn't great on it, so I'm effectively "stuck"

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Post by Workaccount2 »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #95
canucker2016 wrote: post #92

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FTV, main issues from the fold test: A forced reboot error first occurred between 6,000 and 10,000 folds, and the same error repeatedly appeared at roughly every 10,000 folds afterward (e.g., around 16,000, 26,000, etc.). Around 46,000 folds, creaking noises started coming from the hinge. At 75,000 folds, an unknown black liquid came out of the hinge, but it has not appeared again. At 175,000 folds, all speakers (ear…

To be fair, 175K folds is like folding it once every 5 minutes for every waking hour of the day for two and a half years.

They also did it constantly, which would build up heat. Doing it like a normal person would probably give you a few multiples more folds.
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