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Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by abustamam »

vbezhenar wrote: post #183
bambax wrote: post #159

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I'm in the same boat. I never see ads anywhere (and not just on the web: I never watch regular TV (I don't even have a TV), never listen to ads-supported radio stations, etc.) How people put up with ads is a complete mystery.

I don't use adblock. That's not a problem for me. May be I don't visit those ad-ridden websites often enough.

Last night my wife clicked on an article in her news feed. It wasn't this article, but it was this site.

https://3dvf.com/le-realisateur-philippe-vidal-dumas-nous-qu...

Never mind the dozens of pop-up ads and banners on the site. Random words in the article turn into ads that popup while you're scrolling. And it's easy to accidentally click one because there's more pixels covered by ads than not.

I've been telling her to get an adblocker for years because she, like you, feels like she doesn't need one. But that article last night made her rethink her stance on ads.

For me, I don't mind advertisements. I scroll Instagram a few times a week and there are ads there. I get more ads than actual posts. They're easy enough to ignore. And honestly, sometimes they're interesting.

It's when the ads disrupt my browsing session that pisses me off. If sites didn't have shitty ads that cover your screen and just get in the way, I wouldn't have an adblocker.

I also use adblocker to get rid of shitty non-ad pop-ups, like "you have to install our shitty mobile app to use this site!" Yeah, fuck that. Ublock origin zaps it away.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by rchaud »

NicuCalcea wrote: post #190
Terr_ wrote: post #52

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My view is that core bargain was fine, but advertisers have broken the agreement with other offenses, like: * Autoplay videos that preemptively take my bandwidth. * Autoplay audio that takes over my speakers unexpectedly and interrupts other things. * Forms of pop-ups that clutter or disrupt my tab/window control. * Being spied-on by a system that tries to aggregate and track all of my browsing habits. * A mostly una…

I wish there was a middle ground where I could block ads like the ones you mention, while allowing privacy-respecting ads that don't ruin my browsing experience. I know Adblock Plus have their "Acceptable Ads" policy [1], but that just meant letting through ads from companies that paid them, like Google [2]. [1] https://adblockplus.org/acceptable-ads [2] https://www.theverge.com/2013/7/5/4496852/adblock-plus-eye-g...

Privacy respecting ads are those on TV and printed newspapers. Targeted ads are where the money has been for a quarter of a century.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by kergonath »

charcircuit wrote: post #261
kergonath wrote: post #158

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That’s the thing: I cannot. The whole web is infested with their trackers and their ads. And there is no alternative to YouTube, for example, including for videos that were uploaded before they went completely overboard with ads. So no, I am not giving up on my ad blockers.

>The whole web is infested with their trackers and their ads. This is an exaggeration. There are ad free alternatives. >And there is no alternative to YouTube Youtube has a subscription you can pay for no ads. There other video sites who charge a subscription instead of offering ads too.

> This is an exaggeration. There are ad free alternatives.

Again, their (mostly Google and Facebook’s, but there are many companies tracking me with whom I never had direct contact) trackers are all over the web and I see them in the blocked list very regularly on websites that have nothing to do with them.

> Youtube has a subscription you can pay for no ads. There other video sites who charge a subscription instead of offering ads too.

Yeah, cool. They changed their terms of use, and I changed mine. Happy to negotiate when they are available.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by bshacklett »

coldpie wrote: post #263
jwr wrote: post #242

I love it. But in the spirit of today's Internet, you should make this message an obnoxious pop-up that requires dismissal with a tiny "X" button that is dark-grey-on-black and placed tactically so as to be the least accessible. The touch target on touch devices should be tiny and slightly off. The pop-up should also fail completely on iPads, covering all the content with a dark overlay but giving the user no way to…

FYI you can nuke all that crap with a simple browser bookmark: https://www.smokingonabike.com/2024/01/20/take-back-your-web...

There’s also a browser extension which does the same thing, but attempts to be a bit more content-aware: https://popupoff.org

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by MisterTea »

mauvehaus wrote: post #220
rancidcrab wrote: post #216

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But those are ok. They (usually) don't have sound, auto playing videos, shock content or cover something I want to look at.

Have you filled a car with gas any time in the last ~5 years? The pumps around here (New England, USA) start playing ads with sound once you start pumping fuel. It's an absolute delight when your pump and the pump on the other side of your island are playing different ads with different audio or the same ad with the audio just out of sync. Usually, one of the soft buttons on the left or right edge of the screen is a…

At one point I was so infuriated that I would feel for the speaker and punch the pump so hard it would knock the speaker out of place (many pumps flimsy plastic.) I did that as many times as I could until the service company started gluing them in better. So I upped and ante by ripping open the front of the pump and tear the speaker out with my bear hands and smash it. Did that a bunch of times until the volumes were turned down.

> Usually, one of the soft buttons on the left or right edge of the screen is a secret mute button

I found out that's the help button and sometimes a clerk will come out and ask what I need help with and I tell that it stops the annoying noise coming from the pump.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by account42 »

charcircuit wrote: post #264
throwawaygmbno wrote: post #247

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All 100 would agree that the website looks better without ads, unless their paycheck came from them. And those that disagreed would still think it in their heads.

And 100 people would agree that Apple selling them an iPhone for free is better than them charging $1000 for it. People like free stuff.

So you agree that there is no societal expectation to view ads when you can get away with not doing so.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by SoftTalker »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #24
caminante wrote: post #22

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I get miffed when corporations manage employee browsers and disable adblocker extensions.

I don't understand why DNS ad blockers (Ad Guard, Pi-Hole, other) aren't frequently used across corporates. Especially given the regular-ish training on cybersecurity and related.

I don't understand why Apple does not ship Safari with an adblocker. They advertise how they keep you safe on the web but deliver one of the worst browser experiences and don't even support the plugins that would make it better, let alone include them.

I found the Orion browser and am never touching Safari again.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by account42 »

Dban1 wrote: post #205
pwdisswordfishz wrote: post #92

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If I am allowed not to look at the screen when an advert is playing, then I should be allowed not to play it in the first place. There is no moral obligation on the part of the viewer here. An advert is an investment: someone pays money to broadcast something and hopes that will generate awareness. Any investment is allowed to fail.

Wait till they roll out advert quizzes. Answer the 3 questions correctly about the advert you watched before you're allowed to continue.

Then we will have finally found a useful application for AI.

Re: No adblocker detected

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Post by hexis »

mauvehaus wrote: post #220
rancidcrab wrote: post #216

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But those are ok. They (usually) don't have sound, auto playing videos, shock content or cover something I want to look at.

Have you filled a car with gas any time in the last ~5 years? The pumps around here (New England, USA) start playing ads with sound once you start pumping fuel. It's an absolute delight when your pump and the pump on the other side of your island are playing different ads with different audio or the same ad with the audio just out of sync. Usually, one of the soft buttons on the left or right edge of the screen is a…

This is one of the top things pushing me to an EV, so I can charge at home and be done with gas stations. As EVs get more market share, these intrusive ads will only get worse.
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