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Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Still shocked Apple has not created thier own LLM, they have bought so many AI companies and have a rich talent pool and money so what's stopping them ?

They have their Foundational Models [1], so I think they’re focusing more on device-level LLMs than larger ones.

[1] https://developer.apple.com/documentation/foundationmodels

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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About GitHub Copilot in specific: One big negative was how when GPT-4 became available that Microsoft didn't upgrade paying Copilot users to it, they simply branded this "coming soon"/"beta" Copilot X for a while. We simply cancelled the only Copilot subscription we had at work.

Copilot subscription ? I've been getting monthly emails that my free access for GitHub Copilot has been renewed for another month… for years. I've never used it, I thought that all GitHub users got it for free.

If you are a student or maintain a popular open source project, they give it to you for free. I’m guessing you might fall under that category.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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I think the majority of coders out there write the same CRUD app over and over again in different flavors. That's what the majority of businesses seem to pay for. If a business needs the equivalent of a Toyota Corolla, why be upset about the factory workers making the millionth Toyota Corolla?

> I think the majority of coders out there write the same CRUD app over and over again in different flavors In my experience, that's not entirely true. Sure, a lot of app are CRUD apps, but they are not the same. The spice lies in the business logic, not in programming the CRUD operations. And then of course, scaling, performance, security, organization, etc etc.

Good thing LLMs are really good at unique business logic, scaling, performance, security, organization, etc etc.!

(edit: /s to indicate sarcasm)

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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That is funny for how much is wrong. Ask the LLMs to vibe code a text editor and you'll get a React app using Supabase. Engineering !== Token prediction

Non sequitur? I have used agentic coding tools to solve problems that have literally never been solved before, and it was the AI, not me, that came up with the answer. If you look under the hood, the multi-layered percqptratrons in the attention heads of the LLM are able to encode quite complex world models, derived from compressing its training set in a which which is formally as powerful as reasoning. These compres…

> I have used agentic coding tools to solve problems that have literally never been solved before, and it was the AI, not me, that came up with the answer.

Would you show us? Genuinely asking

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Microsoft owns 49% of OpenAI so why they should worry? JetBrains just proudly announce that they now use GPT-5 by default. > going all in at the begining and then losing to the competition Sure, but there are counter examples too. Microsoft went late to the party of cloud computing. Today Azure is their main money printing machine. At some point Visual Studio seemed to be a legacy app only used for Windows-specific a…

Anecdotally: Azure is the Teams of cloud services - nobody uses it voluntarily or because it's technically the best solution. They use it because the corporation mandates it.

Partially, I still consider the Web shell and VSCode based editing experience the best of clound vendors as replacement from what started to me as telnet and X forwarding on the university DG/UX servers.

AWS is the worst of this experience, even IBM Cloud has better tooling in this regard, GCP is somehow in the middle, others like Vercel/Netlify naturally don't offer this kind of setup.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Anecdotally: Azure is the Teams of cloud services - nobody uses it voluntarily or because it's technically the best solution. They use it because the corporation mandates it.

I’ve used Meet, Slack, Zoom and Teams extensively. Teams beats the others by miles in my opinion.

One day we will be able to have threaded conversations....

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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> At some point Visual Studio seemed to be a legacy app only used for Windows-specific app development. Then they released VSCode and boom! I'm not sure what the point is. Visual Studio is still Windows-only; VS Code is not related to it in any shape or form, the name is deliberately misleading.

The point is MS was so, so, so late to the party of cross-platform developer tools. And then suddenly they won the game.

Ah, it makes total sense to me now. Thanks.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

I think you need play around with some of the early codegen models so you can get a better intuition for how LLMs work/fail.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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> At some point Visual Studio seemed to be a legacy app only used for Windows-specific app development. Then they released VSCode and boom! I'm not sure what the point is. Visual Studio is still Windows-only; VS Code is not related to it in any shape or form, the name is deliberately misleading.

> VS Code is not related to it in any shape or form Except they are made by the same company? and literally own the trademark for both?

Oracle literally own the trademark for both Java and JavaScript.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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The irony of this, is that Microsoft was trying to push CoPilot everywhere, however eventually Apple, Google and JetBrains have their own AI integrations, taking CoPilot out of the loop. Slowly the AI craziness at Microsoft is taking the similar shape, of going all in at the begining and then losing to the competition, that they also had with Web (IE), mobile (Windows CE/Pocket PC/WP 7/WP 8/UWP), the BUILD sessions t…

Taking out of the loop? I have a feeling that vscode copilot has huge market share. It's more like competitors are slowly eating small piece of pie.
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