I personally just cannot accept that there’s no WWAN option available. Tethering with your phone is just nowhere close to what one would expect out of it in 2025.
Framework Laptop 16
291–300 of 440 posts
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#292I built my ideal laptop... 4TB storage, the 5070, all the mods I would need, and it comes to $4000+ :( My ASUS ROG Strix cost me $1500 back when the 3080's were new and has a 3080. Have prices risen that much?
I had Asus ROG zephyrus M16 2021 and it's a hot piece of shit considering €2500 sticker price.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#293I personally just cannot accept that there’s no WWAN option available. Tethering with your phone is just nowhere close to what one would expect out of it in 2025.
> Tethering with your phone is just nowhere close to what one would expect out of it in 2025.
How so? I can't think of a single thing that shoving a cellular antenna inside the laptop will add.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is my issue! All these years later, I am still not used to it, and I accidentally trigger multi-tap nonsense that I didn't intend because I am trying to click with my thumb.
My only point of reference is my MacBook Pro trackpad but I have no problem using my finger to move the cursor with my thumb resting on the trackpad and clicking. Not exactly the same because you lose some of the tactility of discrete buttons but it seems somewhat possible at least.
Yeah, most of the non-apple implementations of this don’t work with using a second finger to click in my experience. They expect you to click with the pointing finger.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#295I love the modularity, but unlike the 13" version this one is just too bulky. For this reason I am eyeing up Thinkpad P1, even though it is only available with an Intel CPU.
I use a P1 and I don't think I'd buy another. The fan runs a lot. When I carry it in my backpack, I have to remember to do a complete shutdown otherwise I'll pull a very hot machine with a mostly depleted battery out of my backpack when I get to my destination. Outside of Apple, there doesn't seem to be many good fanless laptops. I'd love to see Framework come up with something.
The launch video for this new Framework Laptop 16 mentioned firmware improvements to disable wake on keypress when the laptop's screen is closed, specifically to prevent the type of situation you mentioned. I've personally experienced similar issues with an XPS 15 in the past; I'm hopeful this type of change will help.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#296You've got a 16 inch Laptop, why are the arrow keys so tiny! And where's the PgUp PgDn Home End Insert Delete cluster? I wish a design-based shop like Framework would have some leadership in the keyboard area. This is why I have been exclusively Thinkpads for my last 3 laptops. Something more niche is that I also enjoy the mouse buttons above the trackpad, I can move with the thumb and click with a finger.
Likewise, I would kill for gaps between Esc/F1, F4/F5, and F8/F9. ThinkPads do this although it is very subtle.
The gaps let you use the the function keys by feel rather than looking at them. They tend to be mapped in debuggers so hitting the wrong key is a big deal.
I actually don't mind the smaller arrow keys as again, they make it easier to drive by feel rather than by looking.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#297You've got a 16 inch Laptop, why are the arrow keys so tiny! And where's the PgUp PgDn Home End Insert Delete cluster? I wish a design-based shop like Framework would have some leadership in the keyboard area. This is why I have been exclusively Thinkpads for my last 3 laptops. Something more niche is that I also enjoy the mouse buttons above the trackpad, I can move with the thumb and click with a finger.
> And where's the PgUp PgDn Home End Insert Delete cluster?
I'm typing this comment on a first gen framework 16 keyboard. It's the same layout as the second gen in OP, where PgUp/PgDown are bound to fn+KeyUp fn+KeyDown and Home/End are bound to fn+KeyLeft fn+KeyRight.
I actually prefer the bindings over dedicated buttons since if I need to use home/end, I'm probably also going to need to go to the previous/next line with the up/down keys.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#298I personally just cannot accept that there’s no WWAN option available. Tethering with your phone is just nowhere close to what one would expect out of it in 2025.
A WWAN modem surely would fit into the IO module form factor, no? The framework 16 got 6 slots. Seems like the way to go.
Re: Framework Laptop 16
#299I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.
Not a question about the Framework Laptop 16 specifically, but why are the upgrade kits[0] for the Laptop 13 still marked as "register interest" on the Framework Marketplace? The Ryzen AI 300 motherboards, RAM, and Wi-fi cards are all available separately already. [0] https://frame.work/products/framework-laptop-13-mainboard-ki...
This listing is now live. Thanks for flagging it.