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Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by amaccuish »

robin_reala wrote: post #264
mantra2 wrote: post #7

I started the get itchy about so much of my life sitting on Google about 5 years ago, so I decided to take the leap to Fastmail and haven’t looked back. Didn’t need to do anything special for the migration. The in house importer they offer pulled over 80GB in a day and I was set from there. Fastmail isn’t going to give you end to end encryption - but - I think just shedding a major Google service is a massive win pri…

The big problem with Fastmail is that they’re a US-based host, so non-US citizens still get zero privacy.

Fastmail is australian.

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Post by mlry »

nine_k wrote: post #138
palata wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> supports Graphene but there are too many trade-offs there What are the tradeoffs? I have been following GrapheneOS for a while, and it doesn't seem like there are many tradeoffs. > OpenStreetMap is still really hard to use and gives bad directions. OpenStreetMap is a database, and most commercial services that are not Google use it. E.g. Uber or Lyft. You just need to find an app that you like. CoMaps is nice, OSMA…

Can you use GrapheneOS with your bank app? With a digital wallet for NFC cards? With Uber or Lyft? (Asking seriously, not rhetorically.)

I use Graphene but with Google play store app. Here in Europe my banking apps and 2fa apps (SecureGo) work flawlessly. NFC cards work with PassAndroid and FOSSwallet, both from Fdroid. I've had issues installing rather new games via the play store, but most often it takes a couple of tries or a waiting period to work in the end.

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Post by Freak_NL »

neilv wrote: post #214
BeetleB wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone showed me OSMAnd recently while we were hiking. I installed it as soon as I got home. Great for hiking. Then last week I used it for navigation (on a phone with no SIM card). Absolutely. Terrible. Worst navigation app I've seen. Told me to make a turn at an intersection that did not allow turns. Then at another intersection, it told me to "Turn left", but the display clearly showed it going straight. I'm gues…

For an open source Android app for OpenStreetMap data, I like Organic Maps, and it normally works great with locally-cached maps. I've had better luck with it than with Google Maps or Apple Maps on phones. (Though, I should mention that twice in the last year I've had Organic Maps become hopelessly confused about where I was, and where I should go. Both times, it had gotten a good GPS location, but then got confused…

Regarding Organic Maps: I would recommend keeping tabs on what is happening there since this year. They seem to be having significant governance issues.

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/organic-maps-open-lett...

Short story: forget Organic Maps, use successor CoMaps or competitor OsmAnd.

https://www.comaps.app/about-us/

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by mlry »

palata wrote: post #118
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

> supports Graphene but there are too many trade-offs there What are the tradeoffs? I have been following GrapheneOS for a while, and it doesn't seem like there are many tradeoffs. > OpenStreetMap is still really hard to use and gives bad directions. OpenStreetMap is a database, and most commercial services that are not Google use it. E.g. Uber or Lyft. You just need to find an app that you like. CoMaps is nice, OSMA…

I use https://brouter.de/brouter-web on my laptop. Someone told me that you can use brouter as the nav engine for Osmand and thus greatly improve speed and accuracy for navigation, but I have not yet tried this.

And I recently installed GMaps WV from Fdroid as a wrapper for Google Maps. It gives current traffic information but I don't really know if it is even close to gmaps.

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Post by koevet »

It’s funny, the very first thing you see when visiting mailbox.org is their heavy push of the "German quality" mantra, like it's 1999.

After living seven years in Germany, I can confidently say that when it comes to anything digital, “quality” is the last word I would use.

I certainly wouldn’t trust this company with my data.

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Post by stevage »

giuliomagnifico wrote: post #210
stevage wrote: post #191

> starting at €2.50/month (paid annually) > I had no issues with paying the equivalent of two coffees a month Where can you get coffee for €1.25?!

In Italy =] the price is about 1.30 to 1.40€. And I’m in northern Italy, in the south you can find it for ~1€.

wow, amazing. I feel like it was a pretty similar price (.90?) when I visited in 2006.

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Post by sMarsIntruder »

> but the catch is that to use their end-to-end encryption you’re forced to use their apps (or, on macOS, run a background “bridge”).

> That’s a no go for me, because I love Apple’s Mail app on macOS and iOS, it just works perfectly for my needs, and I don’t want to give that up.

Well, you can indeed use Apple Mail by running the Bridge. Not sure I understand the point here.

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Post by coro_1 »

kogasa240p wrote: post #257
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

>Proton Using proton as well, but if you're stuck on the free tier you can't use any 3rd party email clients. >YouTube Using Google takeout for Youtube will give you a .csv of your subscriptions and playlists (just be sure to un-check getting a download of your videos). From there you can get the rss feeds and use RSSguard as a subscription viewer/media player, this site was a big help in figuring things out https://…

I love Proton but the idea of subscribing and committing to renew annually is a turn off. There's probably be a huge market behind the psychology of this.

They should offer a lifetime option for the core service and monetize the add-ons and new features.

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