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I don't know who y'all is. It's unlikely the US will have free or fair elections ever again. Remember what happened on Jan 6?
Y'all Qaeda | VanillaISIS | Yeehawdists | Yokelharam | Talibundy** | Talibaptists | ...
* for some archaic value of 'free & fair'
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I don't know who y'all is. It's unlikely the US will have free or fair elections ever again. Remember what happened on Jan 6?
There's over 9,000 names for the US forces that'll ensure an absence of free and fair* elections. Y'all Qaeda | VanillaISIS | Yeehawdists | Yokelharam | Talibundy** | Talibaptists | ... * for some archaic value of 'free & fair' ** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HODGXw0AZX4
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I disagree. We have Tr*mp because his team is able to successfully motivate angry, hateful, and scared people. There are a lot of these people, they are not smart, and they are mad. MAGA directs that anger. They simply figured out how to enthrall bad people.
All the Democrats needed to do was get 5% in the middle, not the core MAGA voters. There’s no way they could reach those people. Putting up Biden and then lying about his mental health destroyed their credibility. Even with that, Harris was within striking distance.
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There's over 9,000 names for the US forces that'll ensure an absence of free and fair* elections. Y'all Qaeda | VanillaISIS | Yeehawdists | Yokelharam | Talibundy** | Talibaptists | ... * for some archaic value of 'free & fair' ** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HODGXw0AZX4
This is far too cryptic for me to parse.
> I don't know who y'all is.
and while I suspect the meconium account that made the GP comment you responded to was aping being a non-US citizen (by referring to "you all" regardless of aisle affiliation) and implying that any 2028 elected POTUS would avoid prosecuting Jan 6 charges for fear of fallout, I also took the opportunity to remind ourselves of some of the notable nom de guerre's coined to ridicule various US quasi-militias of the pro Jan6 persuasion.
Y'all Qaeda was gem of a description for the Vanilla ISIS types.
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As much as I agree with your main central paragraph, this Then yes, there's the SJW issue and the completely unfounded amount of obeisance to it that many democrats and their supporters expressed. seems misplaced. For context, I've been watching UK, US, AU, and CA news and politics for decades and my observation is that relatively few on left | liberal | progressive could honestly be described as all in, full on, bra…
I'm sorry, but enough of exactly this was visible on the cultural side of support for democrat social politics that it can't just be ignored. It had its impact. Too many sacred cows were encased in too many groupthink bubbles of rigid "permissible" discourse and this was heavily associated specifically with the kind of social circles that democrat politicians are most popular with and pander to very often. For many voters on the margins, this caused a reactionary dislike that led to lost votes.
Take for example the illegial immigration issue. This was something that many voters of all stripes (including many Afican American and even latino American voters) took very seriously for reasons they thought very valid to their contexts. Often, however, stating that you worried about it would be smeared as a part of being a racist in general, and that must have felt bloody insulting, even ridiculous to a hefty number of people who simply viewed it as a baseless character attack.
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> As for the second term, we can’t forget that the Democrats basically threw the election. This election was a layup. An easy win. Good case for that in 2016, sure. 2024, not at all.
You think that running a candidate with dementia, then giving the nomination to the next default person in line was a good strategy? Even with those fuckups, Harris didn’t get completely trounced. If they had put up any reasonable candidate who got the nomination fair and square, they probably would have won.
This seems incredibly naive. Can you name any such reasonable candidate and explain why you think they would have won the election?
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Going all in on Israel in 2024 WAS the social political landmine. A half-assed attempt at sorta kinda defending trans people wasn't.
So your offered alternative is {everything the same, except harder/softer? on Israel}?
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The path to winning elections is by appealing to voters who can be swayed while keeping the base on board. The problem with Democrats winning elections (since 2016) has been the ideological purity tests their social-left demands from candidates, rendering them toxic to independents. It'd be nice if internet SJWs grew up and realized that winning elections with "don't ask don't tell" is better than losing elections wi…
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As much as I agree with your main central paragraph, this Then yes, there's the SJW issue and the completely unfounded amount of obeisance to it that many democrats and their supporters expressed. seems misplaced. For context, I've been watching UK, US, AU, and CA news and politics for decades and my observation is that relatively few on left | liberal | progressive could honestly be described as all in, full on, bra…
I'll have to partly disagree. I don't want to imply that the whole SJW issue was a driving factor, because I don't think it was. The American dems lost the narrative on many practical subjects that too many fence margin voters really cared about, and while the conservatives, MAGA types and republicans overblew aspects of the SJW side of Dem discourse, it was and is a real thing, frequently given obiesance to and in w…
We've been through the political immigration hysteria, "Stop the boats" and "Babies overboard" tipped elections and spawned offshore processing policies that were the envy of Trump v1.0.
That said, hyping fear of trans people following the lead of US podcast warriors pretty much fell flat on it's face here, burned out in disaster, much to the chagrin of aussie neo christians (small c) who tried to fly it up the pole.
At the end of the day the actual demographic volume of those under the tails of the bimodal sex and gender distributions are too small to give Aussies pause but apparently so great they terrify the US conservative into embracing .. umm, whatever this current failing of US democracy will go by in hindsight.
( Franklin, in foresight, referred to it thus:
I believe farther that this is likely to be well administred for a Course of Years and can only end in Despotism as other Forms have done before it, when the People shall become so corrupted as to need Despotic Government, being incapable of any other.
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So your offered alternative is {everything the same, except harder/softer? on Israel}?
Yeah dude. That's totally what you should have gathered from this exchange.
Taking potshots is easy: putting down your own marker is hard.