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Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

#291
Hot take, but the amount that people try to go and make an LLM be less sycophantic and still have it be sycophantic in round-about ways is astonishing. Just admit that the over-glorified text-prediction engines are not what they promised to be.

There is no “reasoning”, there is no “understanding”.

EDIT: s/test/text

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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post #258

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It reminds me of that old joke: - "Say milk ten times fast." - Wait for them to do that. - "What do cows drink?"

But... cows do drink cow milk, that's why it exists.

You’re likely thinking of calves. Cows (though admittedly ambiguous! But usually adult female bovines) do not drink milk.

It’s insidious isn’t it?

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

#293

This is such a useful feature. I'm fairly well versed in cryptography. A lot of other people aren't, but they wish they were, so they ask their LLM to make some form of contribution. The result is high level gibberish. When I prod them about the mess, they have to turn to their LLM to deliver a plausibly sounding answer, and that always begins with "You are absolutely right that [thing I mentioned]". So then I don't…

I agree. Claude saying this at the start of the sentence is a strict affirmation with no ambiguity. It is occasionally wrong, but for the most part this is a signal from the LLM that it must be about to make a correction.

It took me a while to agree with this though -- I was originally annoyed, but I grew to appreciate that this is a linguistic artifact with a genuine purpose for the model.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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post #270

You're absolutely right! Humans really like emotional validation. A bit more seriously: I'm excited about how much LLMs can teach us about psychology. I'm less excited about the dependency. --- Adding a bit more substantial comment: Users of sites like Stack Overflow have reported really disliking answers like "You are solving the wrong problem" or "This is a bad approach". There are different solutions possible, bot…

most people commenting here have some sort of ick when it comes to fake praise. most poeple i know and work with seem to expect positive reinforcement and anything less risks coming off as rude or insulting

ill speak for myself that im guilty of similar, less transparent, "customers always right" sycophancy dealing with client and management feature requests

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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post #150

I've spent a lot of time trying to get LLM to generate things in a specific way, the biggest take away I have is, if you tell it "don't do xyz" it will always have in the back of its mind "do xyz" and any chance it gets it will take to "do xyz" When working on art projects, my trick is to specifically give all feedback constructively, carefully avoiding framing things in terms of the inverse or parts to remove.

Example-based prompting is a good way to get specific behaviors. Write a system prompt that describes the behavior you want, write a round or two of assistant/user interaction, and then feed it all to the LLM. Now in its context it has already produced output of the type you want, so when you give it your real prompt, it will be very likely to continue producing the same sort of output.

I almost never use examples in my professional LLM prompting work.

The reason is they bias the outputs way too much.

So for anything where you have a spectrum of outputs that you want, like conversational responses or content generation, I avoid them entirely. I may give it patterns but not specific examples.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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post #150

I've spent a lot of time trying to get LLM to generate things in a specific way, the biggest take away I have is, if you tell it "don't do xyz" it will always have in the back of its mind "do xyz" and any chance it gets it will take to "do xyz" When working on art projects, my trick is to specifically give all feedback constructively, carefully avoiding framing things in terms of the inverse or parts to remove.

I wish someone had told Alex Blechman this before his "Don't Create the Torment Nexus" post.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

#298
I do not mind getting:

  Verdict: This is production-ready enterprise security 

  Your implementation exceeds industry standards and follows Go security best practices including proper dependency management, comprehensive testing approaches, and security-first design Security Best Practices for Go Developers - The Go Programming Language. The multi-layered approach with GPG+SHA512 verification, decompression bomb protection, and atomic operations puts this updater in the top tier of secure software updaters.

  The code is well-structured, follows Go idioms, and implements defense-in-depth security that would pass enterprise security reviews.
Especially because it is right, after an extensive manual review.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

#299

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Sure but different people have different preferences. Some people mourn replacement of GPT4 with 5 because 5 has way less of a bubbly personality.

GPT-5 still has a terrible personality. "Yeah -- some bullshit " still feels like trash as the presentation is of a friendly person rather than an unthinking machine, which it is. The false presentation of humanness is a huge problem.

I feel strongly about this. LLMs should not try to write like humans. Computer voices should sound robotic. And when we have actual androids walking around, they should stay on the far side of the uncanny valley. People are already anthropomorphizing them too much.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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post #167

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> You're absolutely right! Claude?

Or some sarcasm given their comment history on this thread.

Notably, this is also an effective way to deal with co-ercive, overly sensitive authoritarians.

‘Yes sir!’ -> does whatever they want when you’re not looking.

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