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Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by godelski » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 7:03 AM UTC

encom wrote: post #251

motorest wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Or just use Firefox because even using chromium is empowering Google to keep playing these games. This. People like to complain about problems, but I wonder why they don't invest half that energy in actually fixing the problems. > Maybe you have a problem with Firefox (...) I've started to notice there is a very vocal opposition of Firefox whose common trait is that they actually do not or cannot present any tangib…

I have plenty of arguments against Firefox, but engaging in browser holy wars is so tiresome. I used Firefox since before it was called Firefox up until v89 (I think) when I finally had enough. That's when they for the millionth time messed up the UI in new fanciful ways, and removed more features I relied upon daily. It's a pattern going back decades, and the usual tired old argument is, just install this addon to r…

  > And often it's tiny stupid things like removing "show image" from the context menu

Are you talking about how they changed "View Image" to "Open Image in New Tab"?

I mean... come on... that is... petty.

There's two easy workarounds if you are really adamant about not having that new tab. 1) copy the link and just paste it in. Ctrl (or cmd)+L to the browser bar and then just paste. Pretty quick thing. I do something similar when pages prevent the opening image and I just pull it from the inspector instead. 2) You can just drag the image onto the tab.

I mean.. I get it. I'm a vim user so who wants to lift your hand and reach for the mouse. But I'm not sure that kind of thing is even a paper cut. Paper cuts draw blood. Making you view an image in a new tab instead of the current one is more like they don't have your favorite color toy. Annoying, but it's not like anything meaningful changed.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by godelski » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 7:21 AM UTC

encom wrote: post #289

motorest wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have plenty of arguments against Firefox, but engaging in browser holy wars is so tiresome. I think you're trying to make up irrational excuses. If you feel the need to criticise something and be vocal about it, the very least that's expected from you is that you present your basis that sparked your vocal criticism of something. If you are very vocal to shit talk about something but cannot present any basis suppo…

>mentioned absolutely nothing Yes I did, you didn't read a word of my post. >Firefox's UI barely changed in over a decade. Blatantly false. Many such cases. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/fresh-new-look-for-firef... >irrational excuses You seem irrationally hostile because I offended your favorite browser. >best example The best example is probably their design philosophy which seems to mirror that of Gnome whic…

  > Many such cases. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/fresh-new-look-for-firef...

Wait, you mean when they just hid the home button by default? Idk, didn't they round some corners at that time too? Matching the style everyone else was doing. The video they reference is here[0]. Even on that page you link it looks more like over selling the redesign... I remember that change and how it really didn't feel different. It looks a lot like my browser currently is except I enabled vertical tabs and groups, which, to be clear, both are optional. Oh, I noticed the download icon currently has little edges like ⎵ instead of _ and the back and forward arrows don't have circles around them. I'm really having a hard time finding the differences tbh.

Also, you can, and always have been able to right click the toolbar and click "customize toolbar" if you really want the home button back. They do keep your settings and it will sync across browser accounts.

I mean you can have preferences and that's all cool, but these don't really seem to be reasons to have such passionate dislike. They're fine for indifference and a different preference, but hate?

But I do envy you. I wish I had such a life that the difference between viewing an image in the same tab and a new tab was the biggest problem I had to worry about.

[0] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/new-firefox-coming-june-...

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by godelski » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 7:35 AM UTC

dwedge wrote: post #285

godelski wrote: post #278

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So when options are 1) Google, an ad company 2) Firefox, a company who Google gives money to Your choice is #1, because #2 is funded by #1? I'm honestly having a difficult time following this logic

2. Should be "Firefox, an ad company sponsored by Google to keep anti-monopoly at bay" My choice at that point comes down to which is the better browser rather than some moral support for one company over the other. It also rubs me the wrong way that Mozilla is pretending to be the good guy underdog. In an ideal world, and hopefully soon, there would be a real third choice but for now they're the same picture.

Firefox is an ad company?

Okay, let's go with that premise, I'll rephrase.

So when options are

  1) Google, a $2.3T ad company
  2) Firefox, an ad company that Google pays $300m/yr for Google to be the default search engine
  3) Safari, a $3T ad company that Google pays $20bn/yr for Google to be the default search engine
  4) Opera, an ad company that Google pays ??/yr for Google to be the default search engine AND is Chromium based
  5)  browser, an ad company that Google pays ??/yr for Google to be the default search engine (and is likely Chromium based)

Your choice is #1, because #2 is funded by #1?

I am still failing to see the logic here. If anything, I'm more confused. What do you use? Ladybird? What about before that? Seriously, I'm so fucking lost here.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by encom » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 8:15 AM UTC

godelski wrote: post #291

encom wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have plenty of arguments against Firefox, but engaging in browser holy wars is so tiresome. I used Firefox since before it was called Firefox up until v89 (I think) when I finally had enough. That's when they for the millionth time messed up the UI in new fanciful ways, and removed more features I relied upon daily. It's a pattern going back decades, and the usual tired old argument is, just install this addon to r…

> And often it's tiny stupid things like removing "show image" from the context menu Are you talking about how they changed "View Image" to "Open Image in New Tab"? I mean... come on... that is... petty. There's two easy workarounds if you are really adamant about not having that new tab. 1) copy the link and just paste it in. Ctrl (or cmd)+L to the browser bar and then just paste. Pretty quick thing. I do something…

Wait until they remove the feature YOU rely on hundreds of times a day. I dunno why you are so eager to invalidate my opinion. It's not impossible to work around, I'm not retarded, but it's tedious as fuck.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by encom » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 8:16 AM UTC

godelski wrote: post #292

encom wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>mentioned absolutely nothing Yes I did, you didn't read a word of my post. >Firefox's UI barely changed in over a decade. Blatantly false. Many such cases. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/fresh-new-look-for-firef... >irrational excuses You seem irrationally hostile because I offended your favorite browser. >best example The best example is probably their design philosophy which seems to mirror that of Gnome whic…

> Many such cases. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/fresh-new-look-for-firef... Wait, you mean when they just hid the home button by default? Idk, didn't they round some corners at that time too? Matching the style everyone else was doing. The video they reference is here[0]. Even on that page you link it looks more like over selling the redesign... I remember that change and how it really didn't feel different. I…

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Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by Vinnl » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 12:26 PM UTC

nikisweeting wrote: post #268

Vinnl wrote: post #218

> What you may not realize if you use Safari or Firefox is that the banners are never displayed in Google Chrome! Ah, so that's why so many websites are OK with it - they probably just don't realise that it's there. > If the courts and antitrust regulators are reading—they probably won’t read my blog, but one can dream—this is yet another example of Google advantaging its own browser Chrome over other web browsers. A…

> the banners are never displayed in Google Chrome! this is demonstrably false, I can share dozens of screenshots of this popup appearing in Chrome despite all the options checked that are supposed to disable it.

Yeah the article mentions those, but those are inserted by Chrome, i.e. the website owner might not realise that they can prevent them from being shown themselves.

But yes, I'm glad my browser doesn't add them, and that I can block them in uBO.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by citizenpaul » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 7:36 PM UTC

immibis wrote: post #273

citizenpaul wrote: post #123

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> associating a persistent identity to a user is VERY valuable My fear is that this is the real "AI" endgame. Flood the world with bots then become the defacto authority of "real" users.

Wasn't this literally Reddit's game plan?

I don't think so. Far as I can remember Reddit decided to lock down their site and start monetizing user data. They don't and never have had any sort of widely used authentication like googles SSO and Email combo. Far as I can see Meta and Google are the main "Real users" players at least in the wider internet ad markets.

Actual Identity companies have almost no presence outside of banking/finance/gov from what I see.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by smileybarry » Thu, Jul 31, 2025, 2:28 AM UTC

qrobit wrote: post #214

cosmotic wrote: post #5

This popup should be criminal. Ive misclicked the signin button multiple times, causing PII to be sent to a third party I dont trust without my authorization.

FWIW, these uBlock Origin rules solve the ploblem: ||accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe ##iframe[src^="http://accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe"] ##iframe[src^="https://accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe"] ##iframe[src^="//accounts.google.com/gsi/iframe"] ###credential_picker_container source: https://stackoverflow.com/a/78429389 . Last rule is from me since popup was invisible but still blocked the content underneath.

The irony of getting that popup on Stack Overflow when I clicked that link

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by motorest » Thu, Jul 31, 2025, 5:08 AM UTC

encom wrote: post #294

godelski wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And often it's tiny stupid things like removing "show image" from the context menu Are you talking about how they changed "View Image" to "Open Image in New Tab"? I mean... come on... that is... petty. There's two easy workarounds if you are really adamant about not having that new tab. 1) copy the link and just paste it in. Ctrl (or cmd)+L to the browser bar and then just paste. Pretty quick thing. I do something…

Wait until they remove the feature YOU rely on hundreds of times a day. I dunno why you are so eager to invalidate my opinion. It's not impossible to work around, I'm not retarded, but it's tedious as fuck.

> Wait until they remove the feature YOU rely on hundreds of times a day.

So they renamed a menu entry to "Open image in new tab" from "View image".

Is this what you qualify as a problem that... Forces you to switch to an entirely different application?

And that is your best example.

Re: Sign in with Google in Chrome

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Post by godelski » Thu, Jul 31, 2025, 8:24 AM UTC

motorest wrote: post #299

encom wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait until they remove the feature YOU rely on hundreds of times a day. I dunno why you are so eager to invalidate my opinion. It's not impossible to work around, I'm not retarded, but it's tedious as fuck.

> Wait until they remove the feature YOU rely on hundreds of times a day. So they renamed a menu entry to "Open image in new tab" from "View image". Is this what you qualify as a problem that... Forces you to switch to an entirely different application? And that is your best example.

In their defense, it wasn't a rename. "View image" viewed the image in the same tab. But yeah, I agree that it is a pretty petty thing to be passionately upset about.