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A Typology of Canadianisms

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Post by kgwgk »

talos_ wrote: post #247
werdnapk wrote: post #203

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Quebec has it's own dictionary.

Office Québécois de la Langue Française (OQLF) promotes the french language and adapt new English words (whereas France typically integrate English words in their vocab). The website Banque de dépannage linguistique (BDL) will have a lot of useful resources if you're interested! For instance, how to write a professional sounding email, names of official documents, invoice templates. Highlights (good and bad): * email…

> * to browse (the web) -> naviguer (as in "to navigate"; browser -> "navigateur")

I’m old enough to remember when it was called web surfing and everyone used Netscape Navigator.

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Post by justsomehnguy »

xattt wrote: post #45
KayEss wrote: post #41

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Only in some parts of the world. In many it's the room and the object

Soviet apartments had a separate rooms for the toilet and the area with a bath/shower/sink. The area behind the toilet was usually a hinged wall that could be opened to reveal the entry point for utilities. I assume toilet hands were an unspoken issue, because there was no possible way to traverse from the toilet room to the washroom without touching anything. For a complete tangent, I’ll mention that Soviet toilets…

> One flaw of this design is that there was no odour suppression offered by toilets that immediately immerse stool in water.

Still better than a Poseidon kiss.

I think their style is an import from Germany in the first place, but it stuck.

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Post by talos_ »

laurencerowe wrote: post #280
talos_ wrote: post #278

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From the link you shared: > The English word province is attested since about 1330 and derives from the 13th-century Old French province, which itself comes from the Latin word provincia, which referred to the sphere of authority of a magistrate, in particular, to a foreign territory. The fact that British authorities picked a French word that the conquered would understand is significant. > I wonder if the word choi…

> The fact that British authorities picked a French word that the conquered would understand is significant. That seems unavoidable given almost all English words related to government/law/administration (including "state") derive from French! The only counterexamples I can think of are "borough" and "riding". > "Province" made allegiance to the crown oversea clear There is a much clearer term for that though, "domin…

> That seems unavoidable given almost all English words related to government/law/administration (including "state") derive from French!

Interesting. I always thought that Britain adopted parliamentary system earlier than France. I'm guessing this has to do with the period Normandie (i.e., the French king) ruled over England

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Post by kgwgk »

talos_ wrote: post #245
nucleardog wrote: post #233

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Also good luck planning any meals. Dejeuner is breakfast in Quebec (lunch in France). Diner is lunch in Quebec (evening meal in France).

déjeuner is a literal translation though. "Breaking fast" -> "dé-jeuner" (undo fasting). French people typically say: - breakfast - petit-déjeuner (small breakfast) - lunch - déjeuner (breakfast) - diner - diner Québecois people say: - breakfast - déjeuner - lunch - diner - diner - souper (eating soup; probably historical roots like "getting your big meal of the day" which is likely broth + potatoes)

> Québecois people say

So do (typical) French speakers in Belgium and Switzerland.

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Post by cwillu »

BunsanSpace wrote: post #275
marctrem wrote: post #79

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In Quebec French we use “toute garnie” to refer to a pizza with red sauce, mozzarella, mushrooms, green peppers and pepperonis.

Which is funny because that translates to "fully garnished" not "all dressed". Tabarnac

IMO that's a mistranslation; “stuffed with everything” would be more accurate.

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Post by kunzhi »

talos_ wrote: post #167

Well, why not include the word "Canadian", which significantly predates the country, as the prime example? It's derived from Iroquois Nation words and used by French settlers to refer to Indigenous people. The word "Canada" was used by explorer Jacques Cartier to refer to the city now called "Québec". It broadly refered to the territory of a specific Indigenous tribe. (could be derogatory, but seemingly accurate / ma…

> For anyone interested in Canadian history, always check-out the French version of a wikipedia page

In reading about Canadian history this entire comment strikes me as very "East" biased? (Because I'm reading a strong implication that the French are the true holders of the history and the English just showed up later. Which may very well be true)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_alienation

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Post by ande-mnoc »

keoneflick wrote: post #287
ande-mnoc wrote: post #285

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If you read the article you posted, she faced discrimination because she was indigenous. Nowhere in the article was the language she spoke ever mentioned. It’s pretty disingenuous to use this to push a political viewpoint.

She died because she didn't speak french and the staff laughed at her rather than try to communicate with her. If you think racism in Quebec doesn't have a connection with language, you are dangerously misinformed.

Did you actually read the article? Because I did.

The case was well reported in media and they basically all agree that it’s a symptom of systemic racism against Indigenous people in Canada. The hospital staff thought she was on welfare based on her ethnicity in this case, or straight out “bet” on the patient’s blood level in another case in BC the same year. She would have got the same treatment even if she spoke French.

> If you think racism in Quebec doesn’t have a connection with language

Where have I said this? Not everything is about the language though.

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Post by laurencerowe »

talos_ wrote: post #293
laurencerowe wrote: post #280

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> The fact that British authorities picked a French word that the conquered would understand is significant. That seems unavoidable given almost all English words related to government/law/administration (including "state") derive from French! The only counterexamples I can think of are "borough" and "riding". > "Province" made allegiance to the crown oversea clear There is a much clearer term for that though, "domin…

> That seems unavoidable given almost all English words related to government/law/administration (including "state") derive from French! Interesting. I always thought that Britain adopted parliamentary system earlier than France. I'm guessing this has to do with the period Normandie (i.e., the French king) ruled over England

Norman French was the language of administration in England for about 300 years following the Norman conquest in 1066 and the term "parliament" emerged during this time.

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Post by maxglute »

joshdavham wrote: post #32

Probably one of my favorite commonly-used Canadian slang is "to chirp someone". It's a term that's frequently used in hockey circles, but more generally means to make fun of someone in a banter-y kind of way.

I remember being very amused at a party when hockey, baseball and football players were teaching each other their respective lockerroom slang.
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