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Post by scarface_74 »

jcranmer wrote: post #238
JimDabell wrote: post #222

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> Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. iPhone sales aren’t plummeting at all: https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-ipho... https://www.demandsage.com/iphone-user-statistics/

A graph whose data ends in 2018 isn't strong evidence for "they aren't plummeting." That said, doing some searches for newer information (e.g., https://www.businessofapps.com/data/apple-statistics/ ) suggests that iPhone sales aren't plummeting but are instead rather stable. (Although I wonder how much of that is services attributed to iPhone as opposed to solely the sales revenue from iPhone, the source doesn't make…

Well, since you can actually look at Apple’s quarterly report where they break down revenue from iPhones and services separately…

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Post by destitude »

keiferski wrote: post #40

Apple without Ive and Jobs increasingly has a taste problem. Everything from their ads to things like this are just in really poor taste, and aren’t something that they would have done 15 years ago because they would have thought it was beneath their brand. I like Apple, so I’m really hoping they bring on someone to solve this. Otherwise they’re on track to be the same as every other tasteless tech company. More on t…

Ive wanted to get rid of all the ports on everything! Thank goodness he's gone and we now have MagSafe, HDMI, and SD card readers back on portables.

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Post by wat10000 »

steveBK123 wrote: post #215
somenameforme wrote: post #161

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Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. And I think they're plummeting for the same reason desktop sales plummeted. We went from a time where a new PC was a bit dated in 3 months and obsolete in 2 years, to modern times where a desktop from a decade ago is good for pretty much everything, even including high end gaming if you started with a high end card. The exact…

Agree they have a huge taste problem, but even besides that Apple has a huge incumbent problem now really. Smartphones ate the world, and they ate the majority of profit in the space. We are now 20 years on and the software is no longer driving the urgency of the hardware upgrade cycle it used to. Apple gets the majority of its revenue from iPhones and related services. Note that services category includes all sorts…

Apple’s MO, at least in recent decades, is to let others blaze the trail into a new space, then do their own version that gets it right.

Smartphones were a big deal before the iPhone. People would talk about how they were addicted to checking email on their “crackberries.” But they were niche. You could see that they were going to be big, but they weren’t there yet. Then the iPhone catapulted smartphones from a popular niche to a ubiquitous product.

Before the iPhone, they did the same thing with portable music players. Afterwards, it was the same story for tables and smart watches, although not with the same degree of ubiquity. Arguably it was the same for PCs (“personal computers,” not IBM-compatible machines, of course) and GUIs, way back when.

What big upcoming thing would they do this with now? As you say, there really isn’t anything. Maybe VR/AR, but that isn’t even in the “popular niche” stage yet, the technology isn’t there yet, and it’s far from certain that it will ever be more than a tiny niche. Otherwise, what? Self-driving cars? That’s not a new market, that’s a product feature in an existing large, mature market. AI? That’s also looking like a feature rather than a new product category.

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Post by [deleted] »

troupo wrote: post #121
jama211 wrote: post #108

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They did loads of tacky things back in the day, we’ve just forgotten about them.

Modern Apple can't even do tacky things. Tacky things under Jobs were failed experiments. Modern Apple doesn't believe in either experiments or failed experiments.

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Post by simonh »

bliteben wrote: post #246
bobbylarrybobby wrote: post #50

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The point is, when Jobs was around, there was an overarching (unstated?) policy at Apple of “nobody do anything to make us look like cheap tasteless shits”. Whereas now, Tim Cook is very happy to sell out for a quick buck. He's a logistics guy, not a product guy, and at his core is a bean counter; he neither has taste nor appreciates that it has value unto itself.

Jobs had won complete cultural dominance of desktop pcs with the iMac 27". If you saw a desktop on a tv show for the past 20 years it was an iMac 27". Tim saw they could cancel it and go against their policy of minimal cords and sell separate Mac minis and Mac Studio displays.

My current and previous machines were 27” iMacs. The first one, a first gen 5k bought in 2014, is in our kitchen and still heavily used.

I don’t know what I’ll do when I need a new personal machine.

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Post by drdaeman »

foooorsyth wrote: post #134
aqme28 wrote: post #130

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Interesting. I feel like this clause is violated very often by major apps: > Push Notifications should not be used for promotions or direct marketing purposes unless customers have explicitly opted in to receive them via consent language displayed in your app’s UI, and you provide a method in your app for a user to opt out from receiving such messages.

I’ve said several times before that notifications should be reportable as spam directly to Google/Apple, just like email spam reporting. Google tried to tackle this with notification channels, but the onus falls on the developer to actually use them honestly. No company trying to draw attention back to their app with advertisement notifications will willingly name a notification channel “advertisements” or “user re-e…

There should be a public API, open to any user-designated program (including self-made, without requiring any special hoops to obtain any fancy entitlements), that can act as a "firewall" for all notifications (except, possibly, for few system-critical ones), allowing it to control and modify those as it seems fit.

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Post by Spunkie »

iwontberude wrote: post #203
somenameforme wrote: post #161

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Apple is basically a smartphone company at this point, and smartphone sales are plummeting. And I think they're plummeting for the same reason desktop sales plummeted. We went from a time where a new PC was a bit dated in 3 months and obsolete in 2 years, to modern times where a desktop from a decade ago is good for pretty much everything, even including high end gaming if you started with a high end card. The exact…

2015 Nvidia GTX 970 is such a piece of shit card, no you couldn’t do modern gaming. It has relatively few pipelines, low bandwidth and has no frame generation capability to make anything new playable.

You absolutely can do modern gaming on it. I literally have 2 friends in our gaming group that are still rocking 970 in their desktops.

They have had to replace the fans on the graphics card a few times and a repaste but other than that they are chugging away.

Also solid lol on "frame generation". Marketing fluff/features like that only exists but because they have run out of real generational performance gains to sell cards with.

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Post by mNovak »

supportengineer wrote: post #288

My fantasy is they create an entirely new product line called something like “Chunky” or maybe “Thiccc”. The idea is that it would have plenty of user replaceable modules. Everything would be swappable. The battery, the memory, the drives. Of course, this would still be a premium product. It would have expansion modules for things nobody has thought of yet. It’s a new market with unlimited opportunities

You should look up Google's Project Ara. I was really excited for it at the time (2014), but alas, it never made it to market.

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Post by jameshart »

jmsdnns wrote: post #48
keiferski wrote: post #40

Apple without Ive and Jobs increasingly has a taste problem. Everything from their ads to things like this are just in really poor taste, and aren’t something that they would have done 15 years ago because they would have thought it was beneath their brand. I like Apple, so I’m really hoping they bring on someone to solve this. Otherwise they’re on track to be the same as every other tasteless tech company. More on t…

Jobs hated ads. You're right that he never wouldve done what Apple is doing now. Cook needs to stop listening to investors, like Warren Buffett, because he's letting them wreck Apple's integrity for the sake of making a buck. Apple just isnt user focused like they used to be and it's crappy.

Jobs paid for some of the most iconic ads of all time - 1984, Think Different, Rip Mix Burn, dancing iPod silhouettes, I’m a PC…

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Post by Fade_Dance »

ta1243 wrote: post #273
simonklitj wrote: post #201

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My almost 5 year old iPhone 12 does all of this. No issues, no pull towards upgrading except for USB-C.

Not sure why I'd want USB-C and then have to spend a fortune to replace all my existing charger leads with the highly unreliable USB-C ecosystem.

Frankly, you might as well. It's an inevitability that you'll have to do that.

If you're talking about charging a phone, the usb-c ecosystem is literally never going to give you even a single instance of annoyance. If you're talking about lightning and laptop sized power delivery then, yes the cables need better labeling, but all of those cables are going to work for charging a phone.

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