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Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by dleslie »

tlogan wrote: post #239

Why do we justify blocking ads, even when we know the content we’re consuming isn’t free to create and even if the content is free, it still costs money to store and distribute? We often rationalize using ad blockers because ads can be intrusive or annoying. But let’s asking ourselves: Why do we feel entitled to get this for free? This isn’t a moral judgment. I genuinely want to understand the reasoning.

They should follow in the steps of news media and simply block users who use ad blocking.

But they seem hesitant to, probably because that would risk losing the engagement of those users.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by bgwalter »

tlogan wrote: post #239

Why do we justify blocking ads, even when we know the content we’re consuming isn’t free to create and even if the content is free, it still costs money to store and distribute? We often rationalize using ad blockers because ads can be intrusive or annoying. But let’s asking ourselves: Why do we feel entitled to get this for free? This isn’t a moral judgment. I genuinely want to understand the reasoning.

Because the paid plan isn't anonymous and you have no guarantee that they won't sell your history to advertisers, even if you don't see ads.

Perhaps you also have to show your YouTube history when you enter the US.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by cwillu »

cebert wrote: post #258
mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube spent about a decade and a half running unintrusive banner ads. Until they secured enough of the market that network effects locked content creators and consumers together in a two-sided market where it's hard for either group to leave unilaterally. Then they ramped up the length and intrusiveness of their ads while flouting content regulations on what they're even allowed to advertise. Why should I reward th…

Ok, well either pay or don’t use YouTube then if you don’t want ads.

The browser is my agent, and it will do my bidding, not google's. You building your company on something that can be legally circumvented is not my problem.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by dleslie »

mcdeltat wrote: post #234

I recently stopped watching youtube altogether and surprisingly haven't been missing it. And I used to watch a LOT (like hours per day) of youtube, mostly quality educational/scientific content. But ultimately you'd be surprised how much you don't need in your life. And side effect is no more ads. If someone sends me an occasional youtube video to watch, I'll take a look, but otherwise no engagement with the platform…

Turns out some of the best science shows are on PBS and Nebula.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by memset »

mcdeltat wrote: post #234

I recently stopped watching youtube altogether and surprisingly haven't been missing it. And I used to watch a LOT (like hours per day) of youtube, mostly quality educational/scientific content. But ultimately you'd be surprised how much you don't need in your life. And side effect is no more ads. If someone sends me an occasional youtube video to watch, I'll take a look, but otherwise no engagement with the platform…

What do you do with all the extra time? How do you keep from sliding back?

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Post by baobun »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #285
mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube spent about a decade and a half running unintrusive banner ads. Until they secured enough of the market that network effects locked content creators and consumers together in a two-sided market where it's hard for either group to leave unilaterally. Then they ramped up the length and intrusiveness of their ads while flouting content regulations on what they're even allowed to advertise. Why should I reward th…

You can keep bringing up Google, but you're still glossing over the part where you're not paying the people creating the content you're watching. Seems awfully convenient.

If enough people do it, monetizing on Youtube becomes untenable for most, driving creators to hopefully healthier platforms who might now stand a chance.

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Post by mitthrowaway2 »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #285
mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube spent about a decade and a half running unintrusive banner ads. Until they secured enough of the market that network effects locked content creators and consumers together in a two-sided market where it's hard for either group to leave unilaterally. Then they ramped up the length and intrusiveness of their ads while flouting content regulations on what they're even allowed to advertise. Why should I reward th…

You can keep bringing up Google, but you're still glossing over the part where you're not paying the people creating the content you're watching. Seems awfully convenient.

No I'm not blocking the ads, I'm just avoiding YouTube as much as possible and desperate for someone to break their stranglehold.

If I were blocking the ads, I wouldn't be aware of how bad it's gotten.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by grugagag »

bitpush wrote: post #259
noman-land wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There exists crowdsourced adblocking based on timestamps (SponsorBlock, Tubular). Soon we will have realtime on-device content-aware AI adblocking. They will ever win.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but ad blockers are on borrowed time. This is like saying I was able to sneak into a concert. Sure, but at some point the restrictions are gonna come down hard.

There will always be a cat and mouse chase, regardless of technology advancements.
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