Brad Lander detained by masked federal agents inside immigration court

Post by ben_w » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 2:00 PM UTC

lmm wrote: post #225

NemoNobody wrote: post #180

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You are only fine if everyone is fine. If it can happen to a brown person, it can happen to you - maybe have a little self interest, or perhaps consider how boring America would be without immigrants and black people - that's kinda where all our culture comes from, in our melting pot everything blends together.

Nice try. I'm an immigrant and a minority myself, not that people like you ever actually care about supporting people like me.

Post by immibis » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 2:08 PM UTC

matthewdgreen wrote: post #205

jbm wrote: post #12

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> Call your elected representatives I have never seen this work for something this politicized.

Elected representatives are going to be intransigent until a point in the very near future, when they realize they're about to be voted out en masse and their voters don't like them as much as they like another guy -- who isn't going to be on the ballot with them. So keep reminding them.

Post by immibis » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 2:09 PM UTC

lmm wrote: post #254

jmye wrote: post #253

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Why do you think the “national electorate” should have any say in California state laws? Is it just a basic lack of understanding civics, or do you think states, cities and local communities should be abolished because people in Alabama should actually be in charge of people in Sacramento? I’m so tired of absolute nonsense like this being said by people who clearly know absolutely nothing about how this country works…

> Why do you think the “national electorate” should have any say in California state laws? Is it just a basic lack of understanding civics, or do you think states, cities and local communities should be abolished because people in Alabama should actually be in charge of people in Sacramento? Immigration law isn't California state law, it's federal law, duly passed (and frankly any other approach would be crazy, unles…

Post by lazide » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 3:34 PM UTC

scienceman wrote: post #260

lazide wrote: post #99

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Police in general don’t need to show warrants to arrest people. In high profile situations it may be done to minimize political blowback, but clearly that is not a primary concern in this situation (except toward individual officers, which is why they are masking). In many situations, they just need a documentable/articulable (to a judge, later) reasonable belief that a crime was occurring in their presence, or in ot…

That all makes sense, but these don't look like police officers — these are guys wearing backwards baseball caps and surgical masks. Effectively, our trust that someone holds position of authority in law enforcement is based on their uniform and badge. If we normalize some dude in a mask and a baseball cap as someone that has the authority to arrest you and put you in an unmarked van, that represents a real and serio…

Post by affinepplan » Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 3:45 PM UTC

nagaiaida wrote: post #255

speakfreely wrote: post #250

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> I hope you eventually look back on this part of your life with shame about your beliefs and who and what you defended. I suspect his post will read as a calm and level-headed analysis 10-20 years from now. He showed no support or protest against any political policy.

banal, even.