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Re: Android 16 is here

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Oh, they also had the issue that one of the leading devs got forcibly conscripted. Quickly scanning GrapheneOS's posts I couldn't find any detail about the technical challenges. They'll probably post about it in the coming months

I mean, conscription is per definition forced, isn't it?

Even if it is mandatory in some form, there is plenty of nuance in the actual meaning before we come to calling "forced", isn't it?

Re: Android 16 is here

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"Samsung DeX has helped maximize productivity on phones, foldables and tablets for years. In Android 16, we worked closely with Samsung to develop desktop windowing, a new way to interact with your apps and content on large-screen devices." PS Let me make a guess for the future. Android Desktop mode will improve and people will ditch Windows and instead plug their phone into a USB-C dock that connects it to keyboard,…

> a guess for the future. Android Desktop mode will improve and people will ditch Windows and instead plug their phone into a USB-C dock that connects it to keyboard, mouse and display

This seems like such a killer feature to me. And every time I watch a video of someone trying out DeX it seems to work so well.

Yet it never seems to take off. I don't understand why. What am I missing? App ecosystem not good enough for business use?

"This is the year of mobile docking replacing workstations" has kind of become my "This is the year of Linux on the desktop.

Re: Android 16 is here

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The old mobile OSs used to be hilariously lacking so every update was genuinely game changing. I remember getting really excited when Android Ice Cream Sandwich was adding screenshot functionality to tablets. And hearing people talk about folders getting added to iOS. Now all the low hanging fruit is gone they are less exciting. The photogrammetry api stuff added to iOS probably took 100x the dev effort of adding fol…

The remaining low hanging fruits seem to be in porting to desktop docks.

It feels like Apple’s announcements for iPad OS are telegraphing that docking might be supported in yet-to-be-released iPhones.

Re: Android 16 is here

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The worst part is I’m so deep in Apple ecosystem that it’s impossible to move to Android.

I'm genuinely so interested what this ecosystem is? Where do you use it? How does it help you? I have asked every apple user around me and they just tell me about photo sync and iCloud.

I worked for Apple Support over the phone for a while and had to deal with people's photos issues. And let me tell you that the way iCloud photo syncing works is basically only to lock people in. It's just convoluted enough that the average user won't have a good idea of where exactly their photos are stored. Especially when they run out of space on their phone (very easy to do when 128gb is still the base storage space). The UI makes it seem like the only option is to buy iCloud storage and once you're paying for storage then it really makes it unclear how you could access your photos on anything other than an Apple device.

That alone is enough to lock most users in to the ecosystem. The idea of figuring out how to transfer all your photos to an Android device is too much work for most people.

Re: Android 16 is here

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With the discussion specifically the last few days of UI themes on iOS and Android, I haven't really seen any one point out the biggest difference between the two. On Android you can change basically everything you want. You don't like the way the new theme makes your apps looks? Then find something you do like instead. You can change all your app icons, the colours of all your buttons, you can change out your home app altogether. There are certain things you are stuck with depending on your device manufacturer and their own brew of Android, but you can customize the device way more than any Apple device.

That's one of the things that has kept me away from Apple devices, is that you can't change basic things about how they look or operate. It's all on Apple's terms. I also dislike how they add the most basic things, like changing the background on your chats, and act like they just invented it.

Re: Android 16 is here

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With the discussion specifically the last few days of UI themes on iOS and Android, I haven't really seen any one point out the biggest difference between the two. On Android you can change basically everything you want. You don't like the way the new theme makes your apps looks? Then find something you do like instead. You can change all your app icons, the colours of all your buttons, you can change out your home a…

One thing about the Apple Liquid Glass announcement from the other day is neither here nor there is how it was worded. They kept referring to it as a 'new material' and I thought at first it was a joke or something because to me it looked like a UI update. I thought it was all tongue-in-cheek maybe but they just kept up the idea that it was a real physical material for a lot of the post about it.

Re: Android 16 is here

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FWIW, Motorola has also had this feature for years, but they call it "Ready For", which is a terrible name. That said, I'm also looking forward to the official Google version coming to the rest of the Android devices

Each year, fewer and fewer Motorola phones actually support this feature over usb-c and it looks like they renamed it to "Smart Connect." https://en-emea.support.motorola.com/app/answers/detail/a_id... Shame, I liked it very much since Samsung phones are expensive

Wow, they are terrible at naming things!

Re: Android 16 is here

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Nice to see someone still using a 4a. I'm still rocking a 3a XL with lineage (massively resisting the urge to upgrade to a Pixel 9). I'm quite certain they'll do a lineage release for our phones for Android 16, hoping to use my phone for as much longer as possible!

How's the battery? Have you ever replaced it?

I am using second-hand 4a which I bought more than year ago off eBay. On low to medium use, it still manages ~1-1.5 day on average. Battery is solid. My wife has Pixel 4, I like camera result of that one slightly better. 4a is a bit blurry in comparison.

Re: Android 16 is here

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I like their Material Expressive design a lot more now after Apple's big reveal. While it's still a bit too colorful and whimsical for my liking, it does stay much closer to what I think should be the top UX design ideal - be clear, legible, and get out of the way . On the new iOS every screen feels like some UX designer is shouting "look how amazing I am at this!!" at me.

I find as time goes on I am less-and-less excited about mobile releases. I’ve had a smartphone since the Google Nexus 1. The desktop experience is always better, and a good book is even more inviting. Curious what other folks are feeling. A lot of these tools seem like useless frivolity. Meanwhile, I have family who constantly get confused whether the iOS phone icon is FaceTime or the “real” phone; and I have to do m…

> Curious what other folks are feeling. A lot of these tools seem like useless frivolity.

Something I have long said when talking about operating systems is that I consider them tool boxes. The same kind of tool box a carpenter would have.

I don't "use" the OS per se. I use the OS to hold my tools in a manner that makes it easy for me to access them.

So, it's like a carpenter's toolbox where he carries around his saw, hammer etc. and can easily grab them when he needs them. He doesn't need to hear about Hammer v2.0 AI-edition or any of that shit!

I don't need my toolbox doing anything other than holding my tools and fucking right off out of my way!

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