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My AI skeptic friends are all nuts
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#292You know what, I can use the word “fuck” too, just like this pro coder does: I’m fucking tired of these fucking nuts who act as if there is no problem at all having AI mess with my code. It harms my relationship with my code! It reduces my agency. It threatens my accountability.
He implies that if I am talking about some other flavor of AI than he personally uses than I am just not serious— but that’s what they said six months ago and two years ago. These fucking boosters have already blown their credibility.
If you want to prove that AI agents writing code for you is safe then perform a large scale test and show your results. We’re not crazy for doubting you. You are crazy for not doubting yourself.
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#293AI makes me sad. When I started my CS degree, I didn't even know what silicon valley was. I was unaware of what the SWE job landscape was like. I went to school in a no-name town. Computer science was an immensely fun subject to learn. I moved to one of the big cities and was bewildered with how much there was to learn, and loved every second of it. I gradually became good enough to help anyone with almost anything,…
I recommend reframing this.
LLMs don't make your hard-earned-knowledge less valuable: they make it more valuable.
You are better qualified to use them to build great software than people who don't have your level of experience and software engineering domain expertise.
If you don't want to do that then I guess you can find another career - but if you switch careers because you incorrectly think that LLMs make programming experience less valuable you would be making a big mistake in my opinion.
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#294> We’re not East Coast dockworkers; we won’t stop progress on our own. we could choose to be of course if you're a temporarily embarrassed billionaire like ptacek, you certainly don't want the workers doing this
It’s the class interests that make it very obvious who is trying to lie to you about AI.
The Luddites were of course correct, like most labour movements.
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#295> Do you like fine Japanese woodworking? All hand tools and sashimono joinery? Me too. Do it on your own time.
Ughh. That "own time." Spoken like a true middle manager who thinks passion is a liability.
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#296I wonder if it comes down to there being many kinds of programming and this stuff is good for some but not all.
The author describes a world where most code is boring grunt work and most collaborators are mediocre. This world is not familiar to me. I can see LLMs being useful in such a world, but it’s not where I work.
The comment about buying a table instead of building it really stuck with me. We’re the ones who design the table! Saying we should buy one from the store is like saying farmers should buy their food from the store instead of putting in all that work to grow it.
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#297I’d love to see the authors of effusive praise of generative AI like this provide the proof of the unlimited powers of their tools in code. If GAI (or agents, or whatever comes next …) is so effective it should be quite simple to prove that by creating an AI only company and in short order producing huge amounts of serviceable code to do useful things. So far I’ve seen no sign of this, and the best use case seems to…
the greatest proof that it's a useful tool is how much people are using it. Almost everyone is using it. If you're using it then you probably find it useful as well.
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#298I’d love to see the authors of effusive praise of generative AI like this provide the proof of the unlimited powers of their tools in code. If GAI (or agents, or whatever comes next …) is so effective it should be quite simple to prove that by creating an AI only company and in short order producing huge amounts of serviceable code to do useful things. So far I’ve seen no sign of this, and the best use case seems to…
The first paragraph of this blog calls senior skeptical developers "unserious" but the person who wrote it has a cartoon gopher as his avatar.
The next few paragraphs basically say "the tool run arbitrary programs on your machine, pull in arbitrary files, and use that to run more arbitrary commands" and then blames you for thinking that is a bad sequence of events.
In the best possible light I (an AI-neutral reader) can paint this rant on a hosting-company blog (why publish this?) is that 1) allowing random textbots to execute programs on your work computer is good (disagree), 2) those chatbots do, in fact, occasionally say enough correct-ish things that they are probably worth your company paying $20+/month for your access (agree).
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#299All good. They will suffer, and you will laugh.
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#300> We’re not East Coast dockworkers; we won’t stop progress on our own. we could choose to be of course if you're a temporarily embarrassed billionaire like ptacek, you certainly don't want the workers doing this
This is pretty terrible for the fly brand TBH. Yeesh, politics in a company blog...