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Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by elif »

johnh-hn wrote: post #96

Does anyone know if these glasses, or any other glasses, can be tried in-person and used on desktop? I'm legally blind, but have just enough vision to use a screen without a screen reader. The problem is I have to be about 6 inches from a 27 inch screen. I'm tall, and I'm almost bent in half to do it. It's been hell on my back and neck. I've only really made it work because I've modified so many things to get around…

A PC is actually the best way to use xreal imo. The android experience is clunky... But I'm old and use mouse and keyboard for everything

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by imhoguy »

johnh-hn wrote: post #96

Does anyone know if these glasses, or any other glasses, can be tried in-person and used on desktop? I'm legally blind, but have just enough vision to use a screen without a screen reader. The problem is I have to be about 6 inches from a 27 inch screen. I'm tall, and I'm almost bent in half to do it. It's been hell on my back and neck. I've only really made it work because I've modified so many things to get around…

I also wonder how AR glasses work with myopia. Could they potentialy worsen it? Need to dig out some research.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by johnh-hn »

rho4 wrote: post #281
johnh-hn wrote: post #96

Does anyone know if these glasses, or any other glasses, can be tried in-person and used on desktop? I'm legally blind, but have just enough vision to use a screen without a screen reader. The problem is I have to be about 6 inches from a 27 inch screen. I'm tall, and I'm almost bent in half to do it. It's been hell on my back and neck. I've only really made it work because I've modified so many things to get around…

I have a colleague at work who also has to get within 6" of the screen. 2 years ago I switched to a 55" 8k TV as my primary monitor. While everyone was giving me the usual crap about it, this guy, when I showed him what it would look like with 400% Zoom, he went and bought one for himself at home. He thanks me every few weeks, but still didn't dare to set one up in the office. (ps I have mine standing on a normal hei…

This is an interesting suggestion. Like with most suggestions here, I have no idea if it would work or not, so I'm making a list of things to try.

One thing that would concern me a bit with this though is how I'd use my neck. To give an example, when sitting in front of my screen now, if I want to see the browser tabs at the top of my screen, then I have to tilt my head backwards to see them. But if I need to see the taskbar, I have to tilt my head down. It doesn't sound like much, but doing that all day rather than just moving your eyes instead adds to overall fatigue.

With your suggestion, I can't picture if that would still be required or not. Thanks for sharing the idea. I'll look into it.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by imhoguy »

I think the keyboard in such setup needs a disruption, because it is the last piece which keeps us in the old world of typing machine on a table.

I am thinking about some kind of wearable keyboard, either attached to trousers on laps, or kind of gloves. But gloves usually have no tactile response.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by johnh-hn »

westpfelia wrote: post #287
rho4 wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a colleague at work who also has to get within 6" of the screen. 2 years ago I switched to a 55" 8k TV as my primary monitor. While everyone was giving me the usual crap about it, this guy, when I showed him what it would look like with 400% Zoom, he went and bought one for himself at home. He thanks me every few weeks, but still didn't dare to set one up in the office. (ps I have mine standing on a normal hei…

Dude thanks for at least helping! And while he might not be comfortable enough to use it at work at least you were able to help set him up in his personal life. I had a colleague with a rare form of macular degeneration and this stuff is a game changer for him.

Precisely. The ideas here may not seem like much to some, but I am genuinely in awe of how much people are trying to help me solve this. I've had people contact me via the email in my profile offering help too. And I meant what I said in my original comment: fixing this would significantly improve my quality-of-life. That makes it difficult to convey how grateful I am for the suggestions.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by magicalhippo »

imhoguy wrote: post #294

I think the keyboard in such setup needs a disruption, because it is the last piece which keeps us in the old world of typing machine on a table. I am thinking about some kind of wearable keyboard, either attached to trousers on laps, or kind of gloves. But gloves usually have no tactile response.

Why so physical?

Researchers ate already able to translate thoughts into text[1][2] by wearing a special cap with a fair amount of accuracy.

[1]: https://www.extremetech.com/science/new-cap-uses-ai-to-read-...

[2]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.14030

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by imhoguy »

magicalhippo wrote: post #297
imhoguy wrote: post #294

I think the keyboard in such setup needs a disruption, because it is the last piece which keeps us in the old world of typing machine on a table. I am thinking about some kind of wearable keyboard, either attached to trousers on laps, or kind of gloves. But gloves usually have no tactile response.

Why so physical? Researchers ate already able to translate thoughts into text[1][2] by wearing a special cap with a fair amount of accuracy. [1]: https://www.extremetech.com/science/new-cap-uses-ai-to-read-... [2]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.14030

That's promising. But hardly working now with noisy environment like park or a car, and AR screen adds its mental noise too.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Post by inciampati »

imhoguy wrote: post #294

I think the keyboard in such setup needs a disruption, because it is the last piece which keeps us in the old world of typing machine on a table. I am thinking about some kind of wearable keyboard, either attached to trousers on laps, or kind of gloves. But gloves usually have no tactile response.

The setup in the post plus a speech to text system and aidertmux and aider would be sufficient for a very wide range of tasks. Or a multi screen setup with the phone as a multimodal input system and the AR as the screen.
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