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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by mike_hearn »

motorest wrote: post #273
peder wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This tariff isn't an attack on Hollywood. This helps actors and staff in the Hollywood area.

> This tariff isn't an attack on Hollywood. This helps actors and staff in the Hollywood area. Does it, though? I mean, the Trump administration is only making it more expensive for theaters to screen non-US movies. Are you going to even bother going to a cinema if the movie you wanted to see isn't made available? And how dominant are non-US productions in US cinemas? It sounds like more tarrif bullshit,where the onl…

The distinction here isn't US vs non-US movies, it's where they're produced. A lot of Hollywood output is produced outside the US now to escape the unions, to benefit from cheaper non-US workers and to benefit from tax breaks. These are American movies funded and written by Americans, but the bulk of the production staff aren't from there.

From the first paragraph of the article:

Donald Trump on Sunday announced on his Truth Social platform a 100% tariff on all movies “produced in Foreign Lands”, saying the US film industry was dying a “very fast death” due to the incentives that other countries were offering to draw American film-makers.

That is correct. Other countries are gutting Hollywood because Hollywood has become a hard place to make things. To pick a random example, the TV show Silo by Apple TV is made in the UK, not America, and the lead actress is Swedish. It's set in the USA, based on a story by an American author and produced by Apple but it's not made there.

This move is bad news for the UK and other countries that have built up a successful film industry but don't have the capital depth to fund big budget films, even with access to the US market. Now they lose access to US funding and can't easily export their films to the US either, assuming it goes through.

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Post by exe34 »

roenxi wrote: post #255
habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

The frame that MAGA has embraced (its in the name itself) is that the policy of the last however long time has failed. I haven't seen the pitch for how having the reserve currency is helping them, and I doubt spreading Hollywood culture has helped them either. Hollywood culture superficially appears to hate them with a passion and wants to see them silenced or (depending on who these "MAGA people" are) arrested.

In other words, the first A in MAGA stands for MAGA, not America.

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Post by Spooky23 »

jparishy wrote: post #214
echelon wrote: post #167

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They used to do all principal photography for half of all Marvel films in Atlanta. The industry has almost completely pulled out in just the past three years. We had a booming, absolutely thriving industry for nearly two decades. People moved from LA to be here. We built hundreds of studios and sound stages. Now they're sitting empty. Everyone is going to Serbia now. IATSE folks are having to leave the industry entir…

you can see everyone willfully ignoring this here, which makes me nervous about actually solving this problem long term. I used to dream of screenwriting and that dream is almost certainly dead but I'd like to see others have a chance. It looks bleak now

Why would you be surprised? Are you expecting some sort of pro-labor movement in a startup focused tech forum?

Modern tech is all about disruption. You get paid way too much because you’re squeezing costs (ie labor) out of business operations.

There was an action movie that filmed car chases in my city about 15 years ago. A bunch of the crew was at a bar I hung out with and we were trading stories. There was a dude who was making alot of money to essentially wet down the streets from a fire hydrant. There’s reasons for that — hydrants require some training to safely operate.

But end of the day, the money guys at Netflix, Amazon or whatever would rather just pay some rando a few bucks and let insurance deal with the damage. Or build a fake street in Serbia.

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Post by pluc »

pjc50 wrote: post #145
perlgeek wrote: post #24

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General strike, for example.

Those are incredibly hard to organize. It's going to be a long slow process of firstly making sure that all Democrats are actually anti-Trump through primary challenges, then trying to ensure a D sweep in the mid-term elections. I don't think there's much chance of anything before then.

So the second amendment is only for mass shootings then? How is this not exactly what it's for?

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Post by exe34 »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #205
vanjajaja1 wrote: post #196

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its very likely to cause reciprocal tariffs though, and exports of Hollywood way out weigh the imports of foreign films

There already are tarrifs and bans against Hollywood in many countries.

Name 10.

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Post by jaimebuelta »

DeusExMachina wrote: post #156
jaimebuelta wrote: post #94

Not sure I follow. Biggest real action movie last year was “Deadpool & Wolverine”, a Disney movie which was shot in UK and made a bit over 50% of its revenue overseas[1]. Its main stars were Canadian and Australian. Does this mean that you’ll have to pay double to go watch it to cinemas in the US? Will that make Disney to focus on the international market? [1] https://the-numbers.com/movie/Deadpool-and-Wolverine-(202…

Since it's about movies produced overseas, I don't think the nationality of the actors or the overseas revenue counts. But it probaby counts that it was shot in the UK. The reason why Disney does that is because they get tax breaks from the UK government, which I think it's what Trump is referring to.

The overseas revenue is important as companies will need to prioritise markets. They don’t want to choose, but if they have to, they’ll prefer to keep 60% of the revenue over 40%. Assuming some sort of reciprocal actions, the risk is making Hollywood “less American”.

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Post by ToValueFunfetti »

pluc wrote: post #252
adamors wrote: post #124

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Did you look at Georgia and Serbia yourself? Protests have been ongoing for months, government doesn't care.

They don't have armed revolution enshrined in their constitution

If arms are the important component, what wrong things are you saying we exclusively use that part of the constitution to defend? I don't think that part is used for much else

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Post by jarym »

latexr wrote: post #90
jarym wrote: post #22

Yes this man was democratically elected. There didn’t seem to be a particularly appealing set of options for the electorate. As an outsider it seems a lot like groups pulling the political levers in the US only ensure candidates that can be ‘handled’ are put forward and those that can’t will be rooted out. That’s why the choice was between braindead Biden vs deranged Trump. And when it was clear Biden wasn’t an optio…

> There didn’t seem to be a particularly appealing set of options for the electorate. I mean, there was one candidate who fawns over dictators, is a felon, always acts in his own personal interest, and had very public plans to try to dismantle democracy and seize ultimate power. Then there was another who would at worst continue the status quo and not try to overthrow the government. It feels ridiculous to claim ther…

> at worst continue the status quo

That’s what you have spelled out but failed to appreciate the significance of. For a chunk of the electorate the status quo wasn’t working for them. I see from all the down votes people seem blind to this.

The ‘status quo’ may have been fine for you hence why you think that was better to continue…

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Post by ringeryless »

squigz wrote: post #64
hagbarth wrote: post #19

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Impeachment. There have been multiple clearly impeachable offences by the current administration. The congress GOP should take responsibility for getting the US out of this.

For those replying who think this isn't an option - what precisely is the end-game in your mind? Edit: I'd be interested to hear why the downvotes. I'm genuinely curious about this, because a lot of people seem to think that a) Congress is useless, and b) half the population of America is stupid, and so I'm just curious how you see America moving forward, or even if you do at all?

it appears that MAGA has successfully dismantled the USA. I don't expect any further fair elections, TBH. I'm rather aghast at how much of American corporate money is just either collaborating with an obviously criminal regime or just sort of blindly pretending business as usual can return with an election.

There is no current checks mor balances, a king runs America and Republicans smile because they are wearing the same color jersey and seem to think their longtime agenda is being implemented, when, no, a mafia is riding their agenda and party to absolute power.

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