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Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Incidentally, Zoom seems a terrible name for a video conferencing app - anyone know why they chose it?

It’s all relative. Is “Webex” better? “Skype”? “BlueJeans”??

BlueJeans is one of those absolutely catastrophically stupid branding decisions. There's just........ no justification. It's confusing at best, and abbreviated as BJ at worst.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Maybe it’s just simple word play of “Zoom us” as in call us. As opposed to “Zoom me” which might be just for one person rather than group chat.

Do English speakers pronounce .us domains as dot us instead of dot u s?

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Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Interesting. I used to buy Zoom modems in the 80s-90s ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Telephonics ), but apparently they have nothing to do with either of the other two Zoom companies mentioned here. I had occasionally wondered but never looked into it until now.

Back in the day, wasn't it either Zoom or Hayes?

Don't forget US Robotics

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Also .us domains don't have who is privacy.

WHOIS privacy isn't a registry-level service. It's a registrar-level service.

It’s both. Some domains do not allow WHOIS privacy (.us is one of them), some have it built-in, while most don’t care and registrars can fill in with fake data.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Incidentally, Zoom seems a terrible name for a video conferencing app - anyone know why they chose it?

The Wikipedia editors know, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Communications#Early_year... : > In May 2012, the company changed its name to Zoom, influenced by Thacher Hurd's children's book Zoom City. It cites https://vator.tv/2020-03-26-when-zoom-was-young-the-early-ye... where Jim Scheinman says: > “I loved this fun little book as much as my kids, and hoped to use the name someday for the perfect company that emb…

> In May 2012, the company changed its name to Zoom, influenced by Thacher Hurd's children's book Zoom City.

To save people the agony of visiting Wikipedia for themselves to check, changed from Saasbee. Which, good call.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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> The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains A while ago and, out of curiosity, I did a Whois Lookup to see what big tech companies are using as their domain registrar and found that Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Tesla, Netflix and Shopify are all using MarkMonitor. On the other hand Apple uses "Nom-iq Ltd. dba COM LAUDE", Meta (and its children) uses RegistrarSaf…

> COM LAUDE Someone had fun with that one.

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Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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To try to convince my employer at the time to drop Zoom, I decided to see how many security vulns I could find in 2-3 hours. Found 12 confirmed bugs in that window using only binwalk and osint. The worst was that I noticed the zoom.us godaddy account password reset email address was the personal gmail account of Eric S Yuan, the CEO. So, I tried to do a password reset on his gmail account. No 2FA, and only needed to…

How long ago was this? A few years ago they were hiring aggressively for security team members in the US, including a dedicated fuzzing team. I’m guessing this was from early on when Zoom was just getting popular?

About 7 years ago

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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They don't use Godaddy directly. Godaddy is the registry for .us. Zoom's registrar is MarkMonitor, who appear to be at fault for this outage.

No, Mark Monitor have requested the correct change (EPP status code `ServerUpdateProhibited), GoDaddy messed it up. (I'm not affiliated with either, but happen to know the technical details of the outage)

Could you let us know how you know the technical details? Is there some public info the rest of us haven't been clued into?

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Back in 2008, when my fiancée invited me to visit Catalonia, I was in the market for transatlantic airline tickets. And I'd never flown internationally before, and I applied and obtained a US Passport, and I figured out with my father how to get a Travelex prepaid debit card with Euros loaded, and my fiancée was prodding me anxiously about buying a ticket, and I eventually threw caution to the wind and flew on an airline called "ZOOM".

Now "ZOOM" was supposedly based in Canada and they were supposedly giving bargain-basement fares to Americans as well, from select origins to select destinations. All I needed to do was to get to Lindbergh Field (San Diego International) and ZOOM Airlines would fly me to London Gatwick. And their aircraft had cute friendly livery with big "ZOOOOOOOOM" lettering on the side. And the price was totally cheap.

Well they did their job fine; I landed in Gatwick, took a train to Heathrow, and flew on Iberia into and back out of Barcelona. Unfortunately, before I departed, my father phoned my fiancée to break the news that "ZOOM Airline" was bankrupt, and all their flights were grounded. They had run out of fuel in Scotland, and nobody would top up the tanks. My return ticket from London to San Diego was worthless.

So Dad puts me on a British Airways flight and I got home safe. But from August 2008, or before, I have harbored a visceral animosity towards any foreign actors named "ZOOM".

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Verbing your nouns is a great way to lose your trademark.

Are there any actual recent examples of this? The major examples I've always heard are solidly in the 20th century. It's not like Google has had any problem holding their trademark.

Kleenex and Xerox were both (somewhat) recently in danger of loosing theirs. They both pulled pretty big campaigns to un-verb their trademarks. Google still has a bunch of other products that people are familiar with, so they are in less danger of loosing theirs right now, but give it some time (like 50 years, not 10) and it may happen, especially if they get broken up for being a monopoly. (Which has been mentioned)
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