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Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by bradly »

nashashmi wrote: post #162
janalsncm wrote: post #25

So when the government pointed to the disproportionate support for Palestine on TikTok vs Instagram, it was actually because Instagram was suppressing it. It is ironic. https://x.com/hawleymo/status/1717505662601609401

Another reason why TikTok has to come under US ownership. How else are we going to censor things when they are under China’s (lack of) control?

Exactly. China demands Apple Maps be ran on Chinese servers by Chinese workers. I would expect current U.S. administration to be frustrated with these imbalances as surveillance state measures increase. These imbalances were less important when there was less interest in information and truth suppression.

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Post by submeta »

bradlys wrote: post #275
submeta wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in what positions are these 100 ex IDF soldiers? Just some random frontend developers? Or overseeing community management?

All positions. I've worked with many devs to executives that all were from Israel and had served in the IDF.

Then it’s doubly critical. A tiny country having citizens in top positions in critical media companies suppressing any criticism of their governments conduct sounds like accusations we make against NK or Russia.

You might think: Well, what does that effect the world if a tiny country flattens an even tinier other region. Then have a look at how Netanyahu for decades pushed for US wars in the ME and is now pushing for the US starting a war against Iran.

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Post by BeetleB »

Cyph0n wrote: post #59
uniqueuid wrote: post #50

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You’re not arrested for posting this, so that is a pretty big difference to Russia (and other authoritarian nations like China and Turkey), no? https://rsf.org/en/country/russia

You do realize that this is where things are going, right? Have you not heard of the arrests and recent deportations of student protestors? I don’t understand why we keep forgetting that authoritarianism is a slippery slope.

> You do realize that this is where things are going, right?

This has been going on for decades.

> Have you not heard of the arrests and recent deportations of student protestors?

The legality of which will be decided (hopefully) by the courts. If this turns out to be legal, the fault doesn't lie at the hands of Trump and his cronies, but at a broken system we've had - for decades. Getting rid of him won't solve this. Having checks and balances will.

Much of his and Elon's actions are within the power that has been legally granted to them. And that is the problem. Congress is not limiting those powers. Voters are another part of checks and balances, and they happily wanted to give him those powers.

The problem isn't Trump. It's the country. Been broken for a while, but it took time for someone to clearly demonstrate how broken it is.

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Post by yes_really »

submeta wrote: post #84

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Virtually all Israelis, both men and women, serve in the IDF from 18 to 21 years old. So the criticism is that Meta employs 100 Israelis out of its 74k US employees?

That's 0.1%. The Indians and Chinese immigrants cover a much larger percentage. Does that mean that Meta is controlled by India and China?

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Post by basisword »

kubb wrote: post #169
aucisson_masque wrote: post #24

I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over.... Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class. you…

Anna Politkovskaya – Investigative journalist and critic of the Chechen war, shot in Moscow (2006). Alexander Litvinenko – Ex-FSB officer poisoned with polonium in London (2006). Stanislav Markelov & Anastasia Baburova – Human rights lawyer and journalist, shot in Moscow (2009). Boris Nemtsov – Opposition leader, shot near the Kremlin (2015). Denis Voronenkov – Former Russian MP, shot in Kyiv (2017). Nikolai Andrushc…

"We're not as bad as them" is a poor argument. Particularly while America quickly slides in that direction. Just take a look at the deportation of Venezuelans especially the case of the wrongly deported man that the government conveniently "can't find". That's a story comparable to the stories Americans tell about Russia and China.

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Post by Hikikomori »

gs17 wrote: post #205
packetlost wrote: post #189

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He's married to a citizen which gives him an avenue towards legal residency and full citizenship. It doesn't matter anyways because the government admitted he was deported due to a administrative error and because they actively undermined and sidestepped the courts authority on several occasions, there is effectively nothing stopping them from doing it to full blown citizens. Honestly, it sounds like it's just a matt…

I agree it's bad, and yes, the government admitted they shouldn't have done it. But regardless, the question was about if it has happened to a citizen, not a person who maybe could be a citizen one day but is not, and you responded with them "doing just that" when they did not, in fact, "do just that". I'm not sure why there's a need to mislead when what's actually happening is bad enough.

If they can ignore due process in this case what's to say they cannot do it to proper citizens? It's clear they're probing their way into creating a blueprint to get rid of people critical of trump.

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Post by spencerflem »

Judges have now ruled that suspected "expected beliefs" that are "otherwise lawful" is grounds for deportation, if those suspected thoughts are "antisemitic" (read- supportive of peace in Palestine).

They are literally arresting and deporting people for suspected thoughts.

Student visas are being denied based on social media posts.

This is fascism.

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Post by empath75 »

gs17 wrote: post #165
packetlost wrote: post #152

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Here's the executive branch getting ordered by SCOTUS to bring someone back for doing just that: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62gnzzeg34o

They were asking about it happening to citizens. From your article: > Mr Garcia, a Salvadoran

It happens to be the case that he's not a citizen or claiming to be a citizen, but he wasn't given due process, and there's absolutely nothing stopping them from picking anybody up off the street, claiming they're here illegally, and shipping them off to an El Salvadoran prison.

All people in the us, legal or illegal, citizen or not, have fourth amendment protections, and if you strip those rights from anyone, you remove them from everyone.

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Post by bradlys »

submeta wrote: post #292
bradlys wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All positions. I've worked with many devs to executives that all were from Israel and had served in the IDF.

Then it’s doubly critical. A tiny country having citizens in top positions in critical media companies suppressing any criticism of their governments conduct sounds like accusations we make against NK or Russia. You might think: Well, what does that effect the world if a tiny country flattens an even tinier other region. Then have a look at how Netanyahu for decades pushed for US wars in the ME and is now pushing for…

You could say the same about all the Chinese and Indian people who are massively over-represented in these companies. Go into the FB Ads org and try to find a single all American team, lol. You'll have a hard time even finding one American to begin with.

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Post by wtf_is_this »

maeil wrote: post #266
perihelions wrote: post #77

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America's arrested rather a large number of people in recent weeks—university students, mostly—for expressing viewpoints on the I/P conflict. The current Administration is claiming, and no one's yet stopped them, that First Amendment rights don't apply to non-citizens such as international students. - "You’re not arrested for posting this" For what it's worth, it's widely reported that ICE is trawling social media to…

Chris Krebs just yesterday had his security clearance revoked solely for saying the 2020 election was fair and not rigged. His coworkers at SentinelOne (almost certainly most of who are citizens) also had their clearances revoked, despite never speaking out on the topic, purely as a North Korea style "punish the whole family" approach to strike fear into people of guilt by association, so that those who have spoken o…

In case anyone is curious about this (as I was) here's an article: https://www.csoonline.com/article/3958808/trump-revokes-secu...
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