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Ex-Facebook director's new book paints brutal image of Mark Zuckerberg

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Re: Ex-Facebook director's new book paints brutal image of Mark Zuckerberg

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Post by mrweasel »

thomassmith65 wrote: post #270
sherdil2022 wrote: post #268

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The actual article title is: "A Facebook Insider's Exposé Alleges Bad Behavior at the Top" This comment would make more sense if the title were: "A Facebook Insider's Shocking Exposé Alleges Surprisingly Bad Behavior at the Top"

Well, it's not really that surprising is it? It's mostly a clarification of what types of bad behaviour.

I haven't read the book, but from the article it seems like it's mostly inappropriate sexual behaviour and some stuff we already know, but apparent collectively decided that we don't care enough about to attempt to change how Meta operate.

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Post by petesergeant »

pbiggar wrote: post #273

Another source of allegations about the behaviour at Meta comes from 7amleh's report on how they systematically suppressed what Americans and others were allowed see about Israel's invasion of Palestine. https://7amleh.org/storage/Advocacy%20Reports/Delete%20the%2...

This paper seems to mainly suggest that the suppression is happening on the internal platforms that Meta's employees and content-moderators use, for discussions, rather than that they're censoring what I would see an an end user?

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

Two comments downplaying the grossness of the conduct of executives and one reply trying to discredit another whistleblower saying similar things.

For me, that's a worrying level of apathy towards and / or normalisation of what should be totally unacceptable behaviour.

This is the kind of attitude that gets Trump a second term even after his first.

Re: Ex-Facebook director's new book paints brutal image of Mark Zuckerberg

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Post by the-chitmonger »

contrarian1234 wrote: post #282

I'm more shocked there really weren't any shocking revelation. It's pretty much what everyone expected. - Zuckerberg wants people to like him.. okay.. - Weird personal details about lingerie budgets.. an insinuation about Sandberg having some homosexual relationship.. eye roll - The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies (all the FANG don't wan…

It may be boring but we should continue to hold companies to a higher standard than excusing sexual harassment and social irresponsibility at global scale

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Post by gryzzly »

Urahandystar wrote: post #287
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It‘s good that they are preventing the spread of fake news and anti-Israel hate content. Pro Palestine propaganda is already incredibly pervasive and annoying anywhere you look online. There can be a news article about Dubai chocolate and Palestine brainwashed bots will comment „…ok but what about PALESTINE?“

How would Palestine be able to afford bots?

heard of Iran once? or Qatar? or Russian propaganda machine?

Re: Ex-Facebook director's new book paints brutal image of Mark Zuckerberg

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Post by pbiggar »

petesergeant wrote: post #292
pbiggar wrote: post #273

Another source of allegations about the behaviour at Meta comes from 7amleh's report on how they systematically suppressed what Americans and others were allowed see about Israel's invasion of Palestine. https://7amleh.org/storage/Advocacy%20Reports/Delete%20the%2...

This paper seems to mainly suggest that the suppression is happening on the internal platforms that Meta's employees and content-moderators use, for discussions, rather than that they're censoring what I would see an an end user?

Yes, that is the mechanism of how the suppression is pushed internally. For details of the actual suppression, see these reports / documentaries:

- https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/meta-systemic-censorship...

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmnQhEQIjKc

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12btf2Oq820

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeaJJU2zHh8 (haven't read this one, but it's from the BBC. For more details on how the BBC restricts Palestine content, see this piece: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/bbc-civil-war-gaza-israel-bia...)

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Post by gryzzly »

pbiggar wrote: post #273

Another source of allegations about the behaviour at Meta comes from 7amleh's report on how they systematically suppressed what Americans and others were allowed see about Israel's invasion of Palestine. https://7amleh.org/storage/Advocacy%20Reports/Delete%20the%2...

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Re: Ex-Facebook director's new book paints brutal image of Mark Zuckerberg

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Post by thomassmith65 »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #275
pbiggar wrote: post #273

Another source of allegations about the behaviour at Meta comes from 7amleh's report on how they systematically suppressed what Americans and others were allowed see about Israel's invasion of Palestine. https://7amleh.org/storage/Advocacy%20Reports/Delete%20the%2...

Americans are one of the most, if not the most, propagandized populations on the planet, and the worst part is a large cohort of them fully believe they aren’t.

Social media has democratized propaganda.

Political messages often come from ostensibly small, independent outlets now - outlets whose incentives are no better than those of governments.

A show might be hosted by a couple teenagers in hoodies, but if the hosts are audience-captured, or supported by powerful interests, or just hold strong, irrational views, it's still just bad propaganda.

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Post by ruszki »

thomassmith65 wrote: post #289
contrarian1234 wrote: post #282

I'm more shocked there really weren't any shocking revelation. It's pretty much what everyone expected. - Zuckerberg wants people to like him.. okay.. - Weird personal details about lingerie budgets.. an insinuation about Sandberg having some homosexual relationship.. eye roll - The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies (all the FANG don't wan…

The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies Most people set the bar higher than 'does he want to drown babies' .

I had an opportunity to talk about racism with a racist. He said that he was not racist because he didn’t want to kill people of color. He is the kind of person, who doesn’t go into a restaurant if there are non whites in it, even in the safest neighbourhood.

Since then, I’m not sure at all about that. There are definitely a lot of racists, who don’t consider themselves as such. I’m not sure that they are not the majority.

It’s quite possible that this can be generalised, and applied to this too.

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

luma wrote: post #150
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not true. Just look at the current climate. If I repeat lies often enough, people will repeat the same lies and start to believe.

They repeatedly claim (in the article) that the allegations are "old news". That isn't a denial.

"Old news. You should see what we're getting up to under the protective umbrella of this new US regime. We're going to make SO MUCH MONEY!"
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