I hope the communities/servers arent self-hosted because that would be shot in the knee, cuz this is security issue TeamSpeak and Ventrilo were like that
how tf can something be a server if its not selfhosted
Discord servers arent self hosted
Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought the main value of discord was quick and solid voice / game stream integration. I rarely feel any connection between servers, but that might just be me.
It was a little bit of everything, really. Discord exploded in popularity because: 1. Its free functionality was more generous than many comparable services. Nobody wants to pay for a Mumble server. 2. Its UI and audio quality and noise cancellation settings put much of the competition to shame. 3. Only needing one account for every Discord server in existance gave it the same kind of appeal that let Reddit/Facebook…
Speaking from being very early on the train for Discord, it also had an extremely solid userbase right from the start because much of the early pre-marketing pull into it was for raid groups in the then-new Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. People really needed a chat client to coordinate a big number of players and it was totally free, functional, and new on the scene. It spread a ton in the community and the people working on it were players as well from what I remember, though it's been a long time. So as the game grew in popularity, and everyone who was in a large group was starting to use Discord more, it cemented friend groups that formed in the increasingly popular game along with the Heavensward release and helped solidify a foundation in the gaming community imo.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#293The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects. There are servers for libraries/frameworks, languages, ai/ml, math, whatever you can think of. And a lot of the adjacent ones will cross-link scheduled events and messages from other servers. I'm really hoping for an alternative. I'm always weary of en-shitification whenever a single platform wins all the users.. like what has happened to Reddit.
Am I the only person who sees this as a negative? I don't want everything I do to be in the same place. This isn't a stance driven primarily by privacy/security requirements, although making e.g. compartmentalisation possible is generally a positive thing. Rather, my issue is with mixing business and pleasure, or even business A with business B, so to speak.
It's common for users to have multiple accounts and use the built-in account switcher.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you've been on a game dev discord, it's usually the opposite.
Not in my experience, either on Discord or any other platform where devs interact with users. Most users are polite enough, but many are toxic as hell; whereas most devs are maybe, at best, brusque - but you would be too if you had to constantly point users to the FAQ or answer the same obvious questions that Google can answer in 5 seconds.
I don’t spend much time on Discord servers (mostly just use it for DM with specific people) but certainly spent a lot of time on IRC in the 90s / early 00s; are channel bots not a thing? Especially now with LLM APIs and all that, you’d imagine a lot of the FAQ-level questioning would have automated answers in busy project-based servers
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not in my experience, either on Discord or any other platform where devs interact with users. Most users are polite enough, but many are toxic as hell; whereas most devs are maybe, at best, brusque - but you would be too if you had to constantly point users to the FAQ or answer the same obvious questions that Google can answer in 5 seconds.
I don’t spend much time on Discord servers (mostly just use it for DM with specific people) but certainly spent a lot of time on IRC in the 90s / early 00s; are channel bots not a thing? Especially now with LLM APIs and all that, you’d imagine a lot of the FAQ-level questioning would have automated answers in busy project-based servers
Bots are still a thing, certainly, but much like in IRC, they're still usually triggered by devs (of course some users will use them, but then, those aren't the users who need to be pointed to the FAQ)
There's also stuff like server intro guides and onboarding steps that should deal with most of the low-hanging questions... Should, but don't always :P
As for use of LLMs... probably an interesting use-case, but I'm not aware of any solutions using that quite yet.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#296>To ensure users stay safe on the platform, we explicitly disallow: >Misinformation & Conspiracy Theories >Spreading false or misleading information that can cause harm to individuals or society is prohibited. This includes conspiracy theories that have been debunked or lack credible evidence. Why? That sounds so dumb to waste resources policing it.
This is for content on Revolt.chat itself. You can download and host your own servers and allow people to lie all you want. But on the servers they control, they can decide what they allow.
Why are you opposed to running your servers the way you want?
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#297>To ensure users stay safe on the platform, we explicitly disallow: >Misinformation & Conspiracy Theories >Spreading false or misleading information that can cause harm to individuals or society is prohibited. This includes conspiracy theories that have been debunked or lack credible evidence. Why? That sounds so dumb to waste resources policing it.
Who determines what’s credible or not? This sounds like “if we don’t like what you have to say, you’re gone”.
Why are you opposed to running your servers the way you want? Why do you support people that don't run your servers controlling what you can and cannot say?
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#298The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects. There are servers for libraries/frameworks, languages, ai/ml, math, whatever you can think of. And a lot of the adjacent ones will cross-link scheduled events and messages from other servers. I'm really hoping for an alternative. I'm always weary of en-shitification whenever a single platform wins all the users.. like what has happened to Reddit.
I hate discord, it is where enthusiasm is met with "bad girls" energy. Plus, it's an information black hole.
I started a channel with some friends last year for game servers we started running. It's been so much fun. We were worried about what you're describing, but we've had the exact opposite experience. People are friendly, they go out of their ways to help others especially new joins or people asking questions, and they try to protect the channel from the few people who break the rules.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#299>To ensure users stay safe on the platform, we explicitly disallow: >Misinformation & Conspiracy Theories >Spreading false or misleading information that can cause harm to individuals or society is prohibited. This includes conspiracy theories that have been debunked or lack credible evidence. Why? That sounds so dumb to waste resources policing it.
It’s really fucking boring how every platform that hosts speech tries to nudge you in their direction these days.
Why are you opposed to running your servers the way you want? Why do you support people that don't run your servers controlling what you can and cannot say?