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GSA Eliminates 18F

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Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

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> The Republicans in Congress are more to blame for this mess than the White House. The fact that Congress is ineffective in no way absolves the executive branch of irresponsible or illegal behavior. The president took an oath.

Genuine question: what here is illegal?

The executive cannot just unilaterally shut down departments created by acts of congress.

That's what makes it illegal.

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#292

Everyone should watch the director of the Office of Management and Budget, Russell Vought, speak on government workers: We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can’t do all of the rules against our energy industry because the…

They don't actually know who the bureaucrats are that they want to traumatize. Anyone calling a product manager, UX designer, or software developer at 18F a "bureaucrat" simply has no idea what they actually do. They are just demonizing the scapegoat du jour. Also among these so call "bureaucrats" are psychologists at the VA helping veterans with PTSD; search and rescue professionals working for forest service, park…

100%, when I hear it, I hear "small enough to drown in a bathtub" for a new era.

A lot of people got away with saying a lot of BS for a while Vague thought-terminating cliches, and we are observing one of these formless things decay, in real time, to the point they're outré.

The based to cringe pipeline, if you will

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#293

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This was January 2017.

> And none of the “good federal workers” spoke up against that. American voters deserve a civil service that will work as hard on mass deportations under Trump as they did on open borders under Biden. The US is a constitutional republic, not an Athenian democracy. The whole purpose of constitutions is to act as checks against base majoritarian impulses.

The system of “checks and balances” is between Congress, the President, and the Judiciary. Show me where in the constitution it says employees of the executive branch are constitutional actors that have a role within that system?

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#294

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Worry not, if we get to vote again, I expect a hard swing back to the other side after these events. Lots of rebuilding to do from the ashes. Steady as she goes as we sail through the storm.

We’re not going to get to vote again. There is no future, America’s dreaming.

Apathy and nihilism are unproductive, even if current outcomes are bad. Without hope, there is no motivation for change. Act. Do. Vote. Volunteer.

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

#295

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The tweet the GP linked – https://x.com/lukerosiak/status/1885523747425399247 – mentioned they wrote a Slack bot to lecture people about using inclusive language. I don't think that is average for US tech workers. I don't believe the vast majority of US tech firms have such a thing. I wouldn't call that "far left" myself – although "far left" as used by American conservatives is a pejorative colloquialism whose meani…

So now trying to avoid offensive language in the government is the reason to fire a whole department? What is going to happen in four years? Is every administration forms to fire each others federal workers?

If a government agency has a culture which appears to lean strongly in one political direction, it is unsurprising that when the opposite political persuasion gets into power, the agency becomes a target.

Traditionally how civil servants handle this, is to be aware of the political sensitivities of both sides, and try to avoid language which overly triggers either. But people seem to be forgetting that tradition, or even intentionally discarding it

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

#296
Good riddance.

There are better factions within the government doing truly remarkable things. Largely in DoD and integrated well with industry service providers; all of whom have ample gov't experience. If you can flip bureaucracy in DoD, you can flip it in the rest of gov. Beyond that, every agency should how it's own _18F_

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We sure as shit are or there will be civil conflict. Period.

Man it's American exceptionalism all the way till the end. Do you see all the other countries that have gone through the exact same transformation without and such civil unrest? What exactly makes the US different from them? Name absolutely anything. All this bluster and wishful thinking is exactly why we're here today. "you should admit your situation there would be more dignity in it"

~120 firearms for every 100 citizens?

https://www.ncja.org/crimeandjusticenews/nearly-half-the-wor...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/26/world/us-gun-culture-world-co...

> Nearly Half The World's Civilian Guns Are In The U.S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ihrGNGesfI

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They’ll try to do elections Putin-style where the votes magically all end up being in favor of the incumbent and the opposition party becomes increasingly criminalized.

Elections are run by states, not the federal government. “They” will not be able to control them in this way.

The federal government can do a lot to support state actions to disenfranchise people, especially when the courts go along with it. And then there’s the threat of state legislatures to override the popular vote in national elections on the basis of “fraud”.

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#299

Amazing how the idea of being able to file tax returns online, without paying for a commercial service to do it, is considered far-left extremism in the US. You’d think that simplifying tax returns and reducing costs in the taxation system would be something the right could get behind?

Simplify the tax code, don't add even more complex bureaucracy in a misguided attempt to make the awful tax code understandable. Citizens need to understand the tax code themselves, they shouldn't need an entire government division to write software that is the only way to understand it.

That's a great idea. Let's do that.

And until that happens, helping people file their taxes for free is a benefit to everyone (except tax prep companies).

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

#300

Everyone should watch the director of the Office of Management and Budget, Russell Vought, speak on government workers: We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can’t do all of the rules against our energy industry because the…

Fuck that Vought guy.
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