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Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Exactly, these look like baby’s first JavaScript projects. Surprising considering these doge employees are supposed to be genius coder whiz kids, and yet this looks like the work of someone following a tutorial to write their first tweet downloader.

Does being a 'genius coder whiz kid' imply knowledge of every technology? Should one only be allowed to publish code according to your standards? What kind of nonsense is this?

It implies knowing your boss owns X and you shouldn’t need to write a downloader at all, direct DB access is more efficient, they should know this they’ve been doing a lot of it lately.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Implying that DOGE bozo is law-compliant while breaking laws and destroying trust is...humor too soon?

What laws are being broken?

Firing people on false pretenses (telling them they're being fired for poor performance when that wasn't the case and they're even being told by their overseers that it's not the case) breaks labor laws.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Implying that DOGE bozo is law-compliant while breaking laws and destroying trust is...humor too soon?

What functional, diplomatic purpose exists for calling him a "bozo"? What problems does this solve? Which tensions does this ease? Which conflicts does this stop? What sensitive government data does this un-leak? Which broken laws does this adjudicate? What usurped power is being brought back under control with this? Or is it just contributing to a one-way ratchet that only ever increases partisan polarization and ho…

On one hand, you have a a group that is working very quickly to make irreversible changes (likely in violation of many laws) before the judiciary catches up and enjoins them.

On the other hand you have an internet user calling them a bozo.

De-escalating the conflict and lowering the temperature of discourse, as you suggest, massively favors the group trying to ram through these changes. If we take a deep breath and calmly work it out, it will already be over and nothing can be done.

Elected officials take notice of these urgent issues when there is significant public outcry. Now I'm not saying that one person calling them bozos meaningfully moves the needle, but as a principle if a regular person wants to do their best to stop what is happening, they must use strong language.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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it's public info

Compilations of data can have value. That’s the whole point of the “facts aren’t copyrightable, but databases are” principle.

Yeah, the Russians definitely couldn't have done this themselves... they needed the help of this one guy to compile publicly available data.

Am I on Reddit or HN?

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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> my understanding is, they will do literally anything to make sure DOGE succeeds, because a failure is basically unacceptable They have shown over and over that they are after a good story, not good results. They’re going for shock factor and they’re pumping out propaganda at an alarming rate. We’ve seen so many hyperbolic claims of rampant fraud with zero evidence. At the same time, they’ve had to remove the bigges…

>Numerous other claims have been shown to account for entire contract amounts, even though they only cancelled the remaining balance of the contract. They are building this live and it's been a month as a side quest. They have fixed those issues that you have said, and have been updating the website, fixing different pricing, etc. etc. every single day. They have not been preparing for months... that's not how system…

I’m not sure how to put it in the nicest way possible without offending anyone, but — your government is the only one in the 2nd/1st world country that is doing in a way where it hurts average person for no reason. Hypothesis among people that I talk to in real life is that American government is jealous of China and knows they can’t have the same power and abilities as they due. This is just a side effect of them freaking out and realizing that they are, in fact, the laughing stock of the entire world.

There’s this idea, I have no idea from where, that entire world depends on the states, and without US everyone would literally starve to death. But it’s just really not the case. Sure, everyone would suffer, but any sane country has already worked out contingency plans, and is preparing for it while blatantly pretending to bend the knee.

I think there’s a deep cultural issue that you guys need to face and fix. In my opinion, most of it comes from the lack of education. However, you’re actively making sure that people are less educated and blur our the moral lines to have small wins that will be insignificant in the longer term.

I’m saying this as a person who has deep personal connections to people living in the states. Those people belong different “factions” of the political spectrum, and it is just incredibly sad to see from the sidelines.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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> my understanding is, they will do literally anything to make sure DOGE succeeds, because a failure is basically unacceptable They have shown over and over that they are after a good story, not good results. They’re going for shock factor and they’re pumping out propaganda at an alarming rate. We’ve seen so many hyperbolic claims of rampant fraud with zero evidence. At the same time, they’ve had to remove the bigges…

>Numerous other claims have been shown to account for entire contract amounts, even though they only cancelled the remaining balance of the contract. They are building this live and it's been a month as a side quest. They have fixed those issues that you have said, and have been updating the website, fixing different pricing, etc. etc. every single day. They have not been preparing for months... that's not how system…

Project 2025 has been an open plan for years and the level of coordination between political elites aligned with the Heritage Foundation and tech industry radicals is obvious on its face.

If the goal was reducing fraud and waste, accurate accounting would be a core principle and this wouldn't happen. They aren't because it's not. Their goal was rapid destruction of the US government apparatus to prevent oversight and accountability that would enable preservation and restoration of constitutional government. Seems like it's working.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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not really, unless your word processor outputs significant portions of text for you

Really not sure where this tangent is going but looking at hypothetical text it can be pretty obvious that various word processors were used. Like if an email has the same font/etc as google doc then it's pretty obvious they wrote it in a doc and then copy-paste it.

They were making the point that using a word processor as a tool isn't the same as having an LLM write something, then retain the LLM generated changes such that it is immediately obvious the bulk of the code was generated by an LLM, not that it isn't possible to discern whether someone is using a word processor.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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I agree that there should be "why" comments. Those are great to have in any codebase. However, that does not preclude descriptive comments. Obviously, the best way to make code self-documenting is to wrap logic in a method whose name clearly describes its intended function. For one-liners however this can lead to overabstraction, and leaving a "what" comment can be entirely appropriate if the engineer decides it is.…

"Absolutisms are a sign of a bad engineer" Oh the tasty irony.

I didn't say always. I made a general statement and avoided absolutist terms. "Are" is not an absolutist term if you charitably interpret my comment and I'm happy to clarify if you need it, however I don't need to append every comment with a disclaimer so that people like you don't respond with meaningless criticism towards some straw man.

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