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OK so someone has noticed that you "only" need 15MBs-1 for a 4K stream. Jolly good. Now let's address latency - that entire article only mentioned the word once and it looks like it was by accident. Latency isn't cool but it is why your Teams/Zoom/whatevs call sounds a bit odd. You are probably used to the weird over-talking episodes you get when a sound stream goes somewhat async. You put up with it but you really s…
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It's not that mobile is fast, it's that home internet is slow. It's the same reason home internet in places like Africa, South Korea and Eastern Europe is faster than in the USA and Western Europe: home internet was built out on old technology (cable/DSL) and never upgraded because (cynically) incumbent monopolies won't allow it or (less cynically) governments don't want to pay to rip up all the roads again.
Several Western European countries have deployed XGS-PON at scale, offering up to 10 Gbps, peaking at ~8 Gbps in practice. Hell I even have access to 25 Gbps P2P fiber here in Switzerland. Also you can deliver well over 1 Gbps over coax or DSL with modern DOCSIS and G.fast respectively. But most countries have started dismantling copper wirelines.
Years back, when FTTH started rolling out in Ireland, some of the CPE for the earliest rollouts only had 100Mbit/sec ethernet (on a 1Gbit/sec service)...
My personal bugbear is the network coverage. Context: London / UK (EE). Yes, I have 5G at home, but it's just one bar and sometimes even this one bar will disappear. Yes, there is 5G/4G all around the city, but you can't hold an uninterrupted conversation over FaceTime Audio while on the overground train or driving. I'll not even discuss the underground. However, uninterrupted, low-latency, average bandwidth is a har…
My impression (from pretty limited recent experience) is that mobile networks in UK cities (at least London and Manchester) are _notably_ worse than in other European cities. I initially thought it was just a London thing, and, okay, London's very, very big, but was recently in Manchester, which has no such excuse, and it was also pretty terrible. Not sure what's going on there.
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That's exactly what he said, they want you to pay for business accounts.
Yup, I’m saying it’s not a rural issue to have bad upload, often it’s just a way to charge more money even in a major US city (particularly one with limited ISP competition) In San Francisco monkeybrains is the best ISP I’ve ever used to date; symmetric up/down, great ping and cheaper than any other provider
If you're lucky and get pointed at a good site, you can get great speeds. I was getting 500Mbps up/down. If you're unlucky, you might only get 50Mbps.
There's always some jitter and packet loss on the connection too -- much more than a wired connection. Online gaming was not great. Congestion control algos suffered because of this. I would see TCP throughput drop by 90% over long distances because congestion control isn't tuned for these network conditions.
And in the rain my connection would drop out every few minutes.
But for $35/month it was great value, and the whole company is friendly and easy to deal with.
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The last bit is just stuff I wanted to whine about. I obviously know it is faster, you don't need to explain that concept. I have just never had need of any significant internet speed on my phone. I don't download things, and only sometimes stream video. Most of the time I am just checking emails, or calendars, or something trivial like that. Unless I do some kind of benchmark, I can't notice the difference between 4…
If 5G lived up to everything it was touted to do, you could use a 5G hotspot for your home internet would could be a huge positive in areas that only have one ISP available. However, 5G does not live up to the promises, and your traffic is much more heavily shaped than non-wireless ISPs.
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I know many households which use 5G hotspots for home internet. They even do cloud-rendered gaming and remote telework on such setups. Consistently get several hundred megabits at pretty decent latency and jitter. I'd say that lives up to many promises.
And I know just as many that have tried but get crap service, so we're even now? I barely get regular cell service in my house from my provider. There's no way I'd get a hotspot for a service that is a must have. Provider's "coverage" maps are such a joke to make them useless.
My personal bugbear is the network coverage. Context: London / UK (EE). Yes, I have 5G at home, but it's just one bar and sometimes even this one bar will disappear. Yes, there is 5G/4G all around the city, but you can't hold an uninterrupted conversation over FaceTime Audio while on the overground train or driving. I'll not even discuss the underground. However, uninterrupted, low-latency, average bandwidth is a har…
[1]:https://www.nperf.com/en/map/GB/-/2012851.Three-Mobile/signa...
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My impression (from pretty limited recent experience) is that mobile networks in UK cities (at least London and Manchester) are _notably_ worse than in other European cities. I initially thought it was just a London thing, and, okay, London's very, very big, but was recently in Manchester, which has no such excuse, and it was also pretty terrible. Not sure what's going on there.
Most people are shunning the covid topic for various reasons, so no one is bringing up the fact that the British torched a lot of their 5G infrastructure to "stop the spread of covid". There were over 80 such arson incidents, but I'm sure this number will go down with time.
(Also, where're you getting 'over 80'? From a quick search there seem to have been maybe 5 masts damaged/destroyed.)
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Most people are shunning the covid topic for various reasons, so no one is bringing up the fact that the British torched a lot of their 5G infrastructure to "stop the spread of covid". There were over 80 such arson incidents, but I'm sure this number will go down with time.
I'm guessing that that was probably not in city centres, tho. (Also, where're you getting 'over 80'? From a quick search there seem to have been maybe 5 masts damaged/destroyed.)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/least-90-phone-masts-a...
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-90-attacks-on-phone-m...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-52164358
https://www.businessinsider.com/77-phone-masts-fire-coronavi...
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> 4K video reaches you only because it's compressed to crap. Streaming video gets compressed to crap. People are being forced to believe that it is better to have 100% of crap provided in real time instead of waiting just a few extra moments to have the best possible experience. Here is a trick for movie nights with the family: choose the movie you want to watch, start your torrent and tell everyone "let's go make po…
>Streaming video gets compressed to crap. That's because your source video is crap. I'm not sure if you realize it, but all forms of digital media playback are streaming. Yes, even that MP4 stored locally on your SSD. There is literally no difference between "playing" that MP4 and "streaming" a Youtube or Netflix video. Yes, even playing an 8K Blu-Ray video is still streaming.
Does that help?