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Post by spiderfarmer »

vaccineai wrote: post #279
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #242

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China has a lot going for it. The right investments in green energy and EVs is maturing now, allowing them dominate basically 75% of the world market for energy production and vehicles (without local competitors). They are also making investments right now in AI and robotics that are already beginning to pay off. The US as a market doesn’t mean much to China anymore, and Trump’s aggressive treatment of enemies and al…

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Personal attacks are not allowed on HN.

And the US might still be the biggest consumer market in the world right now, but margins are thin and a lot of companies have spent the last few months preparing for Trump's whims.

Also, you're completely ignoring his most important point, which is that even allies now think of the US as unreliable. As an ally, as a trading parter and as a market. Trump is 100% destroying very important international relations and China is the country that will profit the most.

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Post by vaccineai »

fragmede wrote: post #162
wenc wrote: post #103

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Yes. People associate Chinese manufacturing with low quality products, but I feel those people misunderstand systems. It's not Chinese manufacturing that is low quality. It's really the sites like Temu and Shein that create low quality products -- because of their aggressive pricing, they create a cascade of systemic cost pressures on manufacturers, who have to cut corners. AMZN on the other hand probably provides mo…

China makes quality things, they just keep it for themselves, and ship their crap to us.

That's hilarious. The most popular grocery stores in Shanghai right now are Costco and Sams, with lines everyday out the door, not Chinese grocery stores. Chinese citizens don't want to buy cancerous food products for example.

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Post by ks2048 »

vaccineai wrote: post #236
ggm wrote: post #160

Anyone got a non-intuited, horses-mouth reason why? I suspect (ie, intuit) that its actually an attack on the USPS, not on China. The party of government doesn't like the post office, and this is to teach us not to like the post office either. I guess if they stopped using electric cars, they might like the post office again.

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I don't know if China is fucked, but this reminded me of a map going around showing who in Latin America is trading more with: US or China [1]. In 2000, for everyone, it was the US. By 2023, for most it was China.

And one of the only hold-outs in South America is Colombia - a country Trump has already had a fight with. And with Trump's erratic tariff policies, I would imagine this trend would continue or accelerate.

[1] There's a few versions. here's one: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1ibunc1/latin_amer...

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Post by jaredklewis »

roamerz wrote: post #238
jaredklewis wrote: post #168

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> The question is how did we let it go this far? Because allowing countries to maximize their comparative advantages is great for economic growth. It doesn’t make sense for every nation on earth to have their own copy of every industrial sector. We don’t need all nations to manufacture their own jet engines, oil tankers, t-shirts, and Tylenol. Trade is good. The idea that China is a major security threat is basically…

>>The idea that China is a major security threat is basically brand new You're kidding right?

No. I guess it’s a matter of degree but my memory of the 90s, 00s and even early 2010s the middle east and North Korea both received far more attention from the press and politicians than China. China seemed to be on a trajectory towards a free market and less repressive government. I don’t feel like the current “cold war” esque situation set in until the late 2010s but maybe I’m wrong? What’s your take?

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Post by nozzlegear »

mastodon_acc wrote: post #224
ggm wrote: post #183

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And forgo the revenue? Or, do the other carriers do a better job of meeting the imposts?

It’s a govt service, they are not trying to meet wall street quarterly shareholder expectations

It's worth noting that Congress has been trying to force the USPS to run itself like a self-sustaining business for decades at this point. It started in 1970 with the Postal Reorganization Act, which transformed it from a government department to an independent government entity that was expected to fund its operations entirely through its own revenue. Then in 2006, a Republican-controlled Congress passed the PAEA which required the USPS to pre-fund retiree health benefits seventy-five years into the future¹. Congress even restricted the USPS's ability to set its own rates, expand its services or close unprofitable locations without political interference.

¹ The retiree funding requirement was only changed recently when Biden signed the Postal Service Reform Act of 2022 into law.

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Post by wenc »

tssva wrote: post #218
wenc wrote: post #103

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Yes. People associate Chinese manufacturing with low quality products, but I feel those people misunderstand systems. It's not Chinese manufacturing that is low quality. It's really the sites like Temu and Shein that create low quality products -- because of their aggressive pricing, they create a cascade of systemic cost pressures on manufacturers, who have to cut corners. AMZN on the other hand probably provides mo…

> Levoit humidifier Be careful with that. I liked mine too until it burst into flames one evening.

I’ve had it for years running 24/7 and nothing happened. You might have gotten a dud.

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Post by [deleted] »

likeabatterycar wrote: post #213
Veliladon wrote: post #149

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Because there's nowhere in the US like Shenzhen, Guangdong or Hong Kong. Remember how Apple couldn't just pick up and move the production of iPhones to India or Vietnam? You need all the ancillary industries around the production to be there, along with being competitive and commoditized as well. When a supplier has something go wrong a line of manufacturing doesn't go down. You go down the street to the same guy sel…

> Remember how Apple couldn't just pick up and move the production of iPhones to India or Vietnam? You left out the part about dormitories full of modern-day slaves, complete with nets so they don't leap to their deaths. Generally this is frowned upon in the West. India and Vietnam wouldn't tolerate it either, despite being developing countries. Wasn't there a riot at Apple's India factory over work conditions or am…

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Post by Kye »

Hatrix wrote: post #4
The_suffocated wrote: post #2

The linked page is about a different notice. The correct webpage (that the linked page has linked to) is https://about.usps.com/newsroom/service-alerts/international... By the way, can anybody explain what's the significance about this submission?

Watch things in the US grind to a halt when you can't maintain them with cheap parts from China.

There are a few channels on YouTube where someone's tasked with fixing a laptop or some small electronic thing. They pull it open, find some tiny little circuit that won't go, dissolve the solder, and put a new tiny little circuit in to save a perfectly good device from the landfill.

I hope they can still afford their tiny little circuits and tiny little solder dissolving things with more expensive shipping.

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Post by j16sdiz »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #287
vaccineai wrote: post #279

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I’m pro-common sense. The anti-Chinese crowd on HN is just as annoying and uninformed as the pro-Chinese crowd. China has access to the rest of the world, and Trump is helping out with pushing the rest of the world toward China. So what if the USA is the largest consumer market in the world? China can replace them with internal consumption and developing world markets that are rapidly growing. Have you visited Austra…

> .... and Trump is helping out with pushing the rest of the world toward China.

I am not sure about this one. Trump is pushing the rest of world to take side.

Panama, as displeased as it can be, choose to end the belt-and-road thing.

> China can replace them with internal consumption and developing world markets that are rapidly growing.

internal consumption: They tried. and kind of failed.

developing world markets: They are winning on this one, agreed.

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