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Re: What's happening inside the NIH and NSF

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Part of me thinks this is just incompetence. People put in charge to "change" things without knowing what the thing is or does and just randomly mashing buttons.

Incompetence. Mixed in with a fair amount of malevolence. Mixed in with that rich guy thing of really hating smart people because why do they always keep telling me I'm wrong and embarrassing me in front of people if they were really so smart why aren't they rich like me huh?

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This, the US is the country most willing to make daring bets on innovation. Europe will not spend even 0.1% of its pension/welfare fund on big research bets. The private investors their will only want real estate investments, not fancy wancy "VC". Young talent will flow one way from other countries to the US, because they've already seen what the grass is like on their side.

If the sentiment upthread holds, and large numbers of US academics move overseas, then relatively shortly, Europe may shift towards being more willing to make big research bets. The population shift introduces new ideas, new perspectives, new ways of operating research, new connections towards funding and money, new views on what big bets even means. The influx of foreign scientists and academics into America over th…

This theory presumes there is shortage of talented researchers in other countries, which is not the case.

There aren't countries with unfilled academic positions awaiting people from the US. If anything, the landscape is even more competitive outside the US.

Re: What's happening inside the NIH and NSF

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"A 2021 American Enterprise Institute survey of academic job postings found that 19% required DEI statements, and elite institutions were more likely to require them." https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/fire-statement-use-di... "Speech First, a group advocating for First Amendment rights on US campuses, released an investigation on Thursday that found 165 of 248 selected institutions — from American University to…

“DEI exists” isn’t an argument.

That is quite literally what this thread is about.

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I've been suspicious that the quality of life cut is distinct from the pay cut. Living in a dense European city, you do not need a car, healthcare is free, and you are generally afforded more time off and a stricter wlb compromise compared to the US. One doesn't need to eat takeout as often if there is time to cook. Depending on the country, rent/housing costs are more or less under control. On the other hand swiss/N…

Swiss maybe, but as a Dutch resident who was just in SF for the holidays... SF food is definitely more expensive.

Fair, my basis for comparison was the Amsterdam airport. I paid 35 euro for a soggy reheated sandwich and coffee. SFO has 18 dollar poke bowls.

Perhaps Amsterdam airport pricing is extensively marked up compared to local pricing (understandable). Geneva was just plain expensive.

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just two days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910829 the problems that led to these frauds are structural --no amount of patching the system will fix this. maybe we should consider the possibility that we are due for a refactor, which is often painful, but especially painful for people (or code) with an entrenched incentive to continue existing. i dont mean to defend what the administration is doing but I…

Refactor. Ha. This is just randomly and mindlessly deleting large chunks of code because you think it's woke.

Not a single personal alive thinks these institutions are perfect. But only morons think haphazardly defunding shit without understanding what you're breaking or what the real-world ramifications might be is a way to fix problems.

The past couple of weeks have historically stupid.

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> USA is a place where you can go from $100k to $100m vesting if you are lucky. That very few do achieve this isn't the point: you cannot do it, in almost any other economy. That's a kind of lottery-mentality that Europe doesn't want to attract anyway.

> That's a kind of lottery-mentality that Europe doesn't want to attract anyway. Except that it’s the opposite of a lottery. It’s almost entirely based on your skills and the decisions you make. There are right-place right-time effects, but it’s still your decision to be in the right place for the current time. Europe’s economy is badly lagging the US economy, and it’s because culturally they hold these types of inco…

It's almost entirely based on your skills, the decisions you make, and your privileged background.

You're just not going to get past the first few rounds of the entrepreneur game if you're not a certain kind of person.

The US has terrible social mobility. Objectively, by any measure. This isn't up for debate.

Guess which state is #1 for social mobility?

Wrong. It's Utah, which is a low bar because it's 28th by GDP.

How about CA? 38th for mobility. TX? 45th.

It's a mythology of meritocracy excusing inherited privilege.

https://www.archbridgeinstitute.org/social-mobility-in-the-5...

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Approximately what proportion of the US federal budget is spent on scientific research? What proportion is spent on foreign aid? Looking up these values is a useful exercise.

A billion here, a billion there, before you know it you're talking about some real money. If I were president I would probably cut from military spending - but at some point that becomes painful to cut aswell. A lot of people have misunderstood me in this thread, at no point do I want to see public research cut. Its just that the same people who are worried about what climate change will bring over next 50 years (and…

Because the federal government is not in any sense living outside its means.

I’m not sure how to explain this to you, really - you’re fundamentally stuck, I think, on the idea that the gov is like a business or a household, and needs to budget the same way. It really doesn’t.

Maybe think of it this way, to start to get your head around it: current debt is just over 100% of GDP - so in some sense the US has borrowed about a years worth of production. 100% sounds scary, but does 12 months sound so scary? Would you consider yourself in catastrophic debt if you owed a year of your salary?

Personally I wish my mortgage was only a year of my salary!

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Social security yes, but it seems to me that reducing the cost of Medicare and Medicaid should be very much possible. We need to provide healthcare but it should be possible to make that less expensive

Medicare would become cheaper tomorrow if the government would negotiate drug prices down. Trump isn't going to do that.

Something like this?

[1] https://www.cms.gov/inflation-reduction-act-and-medicare/med...

Re: What's happening inside the NIH and NSF

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Despite all the hyperbole in this thread I will try to speak plainly. It has become tiring to see how DEI has affected all aspects of academia. Hiring people based on race, awarding grants to work exclusively with members of a particular set of minorities, etc. I'm sure most people choose to close their eyes to such things and move on and focus on the actual important work but there must be unimaginable waste going o…

Unethical race-based preferences is what those policies have been trying to fix. Not sure you’re aware of this, but academia used to be basically off-limits to anyone not white and male.

Re: What's happening inside the NIH and NSF

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"A 2021 American Enterprise Institute survey of academic job postings found that 19% required DEI statements, and elite institutions were more likely to require them." https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/fire-statement-use-di... "Speech First, a group advocating for First Amendment rights on US campuses, released an investigation on Thursday that found 165 of 248 selected institutions — from American University to…

“DEI exists” isn’t an argument.

DEI is a good idea that has led to a catastrophic backlash.

Imagine a world where us intellectual types hadn’t given the right this kind of talking point on a silver platter. Election might have gone differently.

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