Some of the better video generators with pretty good quality can run on the 32gb version. Expect lots of AI generated videos with this generation of videocards. Price is steep and we need another 9700 ati successtory for some serious nvidia competition. Not going to happen anytime soon I am afraid.
Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
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Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
#292As a lifelong nvidia consumer, I think it's a safe bet to ride out the first wave of 5xxx series GPUs and wait for the inevitable 5080/5070 (GT/Ti/Super/whatever) that should release a few months after with similar specs and better performance based on whatever the complaints surrounding the initial GPUs lacked. I would expect something like the 5080 super will have something like 20/24Gb of VRAM. 16Gb just seems wro…
Or you wait out the 5000 Super too and get the 6000 series that fixes all the first-gen 5000-Super problems...
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#293This is maybe a dumb question, but why is it so hard to buy Nvidia GPUs? I can understand lack of supply, but why can't I go on nvidia.com and buy something the same way I go on apple.com and buy hardware? I'm looking for GPUs and navigating all these different resellers with wildly different prices and confusing names (on top of the already confusing set of available cards).
Maybe, it is simply a legacy business model. Nvidia wasn't always a behemoth. In olden days they must be happy for someone else to manage the global distribution, marketing, service etc. Also, this gives an illusion of choice. You get graphic cards in different color, shape, RGB, water cooling combinations.
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#294I'm really disappointed in all the advancement in frame generation. Game devs will end up relying on it for any decent performance in lieu of actually optimizing anything, which means games will look great and play terribly. It will be 300 fake fps and 30 real fps. Throw latency out the window.
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you need one of those as a gamer? 1080ti was 120+ fps in heavy realistic looking games. 20xx RT slashed that back to 15 fps, but is RT really necessary to play games? Who cares about real-world reflections? And reviews showed that RT+DLSS introduced so many artefacts sometimes that the realism argument seemed absurd. Any modern card under $1000 is more than enough for graphics in virtually all games. The gamin…
> Any modern card under $1000 is more than enough for graphics in virtually all games I disagree. I run a 4070 Super, Ryzen 7700 with DDR5 and I still cant run Asseto Corsa Competizione in VR at 90fps. MSFS 2024 runs at 30 something fps at medium settings. VR gaming is a different beast
Spending $2 quadrillion on a GPU won't fix poor raster performance which is what you need when you're rendering two frames side by side. Transistors only get so small before AI slop is sold as an improvement.
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#296The increasing TDP trend is going crazy for the top-tier consumer cards: 3090 - 350W 3090 Ti - 450W 4090 - 450W 5090 - 575W 3x3090 (1050W) is less than 2x5090 (1150W), plus you get 72GB of VRAM instead of 64GB, if you can find a motherboard that supports 3 massive cards or good enough risers (apparently near impossible?).
Can you actually use multiple videocards easily with existing AI model tools?
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you need one of those as a gamer? 1080ti was 120+ fps in heavy realistic looking games. 20xx RT slashed that back to 15 fps, but is RT really necessary to play games? Who cares about real-world reflections? And reviews showed that RT+DLSS introduced so many artefacts sometimes that the realism argument seemed absurd. Any modern card under $1000 is more than enough for graphics in virtually all games. The gamin…
> is RT really necessary to play games? Who cares about real-world reflections? I barely play video games but I definitely do
Indeed you're not a gamer, but you're the target audience for gaming advertisements and $2000 GPUs.
I still play traditional roguelikes from the 80s (and their modern counterparts) and I'm a passionate gamer. I don't need a fancy GPU to enjoy the masterpieces. Because at the end of the day nowhere in the definition of "game" is there a requirement for realistic graphics -- and what passes off as realistic changes from decade to decade anyway. A game is about gameplay, and you can have great gameplay with barely any graphics at all.
I'd leave raytracing to those who like messing with GLSL on shadertoy; now people like me have 0 options if they want a good budget card that just has good raster performance and no AI/RTX bullshit.
And ON TOP OF THAT, every game engine has turned to utter shit in the last 5-10 years. Awful performance, awful graphics, forced sub-100% resolution... And in order to get anything that doesn't look like shit and runs at a passable framerate, you need to enable DLSS. Great
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are intentionally keeping the VRAM small on these cards to force people to buy their larger, more expensive offerings.
Maybe, but if they strapped these with 64gb+ wouldn’t that be wasted on folks buying it for its intended purpose? Gaming. Though the “intended use” is changing and has been for a bit now.
The only reason gaming doesn't use all the VRAM is because typically GPUs don't have all the VRAM. If they did then games would somehow find a way to use it.
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Why not go for AMD? I just got a 7900XTX for 850 euros, it runs ollama or comfyUI via WSl2 quite nicely.
Pointless putting yourself through the support headaches or having to wait for support to arrive to save a few dollars because the rest of the community is running Nvidia
Nah it's quite easy these days. Ollama runs perfectly fine on Windows, comfyUI still has some not ported requirements, so you have to do stuff through WSL2.
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#300The increasing TDP trend is going crazy for the top-tier consumer cards: 3090 - 350W 3090 Ti - 450W 4090 - 450W 5090 - 575W 3x3090 (1050W) is less than 2x5090 (1150W), plus you get 72GB of VRAM instead of 64GB, if you can find a motherboard that supports 3 massive cards or good enough risers (apparently near impossible?).
Can you actually use multiple videocards easily with existing AI model tools?
Yes, though how you do it depends on what you're doing.
I do a lot of training of encoders, multimodal, and vision models, which are typically small enough to fit on a single GPU; multiple GPUs enables data parallelism, where the data is spread to an independent copy of each model.
Occasionally fine-tuning large models and need to use model-parallelism, where the model is split across GPUs. This is also necessary for inference of the really big models, as well.
But most tooling for training/inference of all kinds of models supports using multiple cards pretty easily.