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Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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I love apocalyptic movies (even ones that are not considered great) but the few I started watching on Netflix were really bad.

Can you name a good apocalyptic movie? I'm really struggling to come up with one. Twister, sort of, and that's neither good nor apocalyptic really. Edit: Twelve Monkeys. I think that counts.

The Road? Not something you ever need to watch more than once but if you want to internalize bleakness it worked for me.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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This is such a weird article. It reads like a 3000 word lament for the death of video stores, down to a coda about how Reed Hastings fabricated the story about the Apollo 13 late fee that triggered him to start Netflix in the first place. Why would I care if that story was false? Video stores were bad. Multi-month theatrical release windows are bad. The studio system was bad. Things are better now.

In all these kinds of stories that revolve around how much crap there is on Netflix, there are two things you have to keep in mind:

* Netflix didn't invent shlock and probably didn't even accelerate it; if anything, Netflix probably reversed the trend away from scripted and towards "reality".

* What distinguishes Netflix more than anything else is its efficiency getting content to viewers, which means that there's more of everything on Netflix, and in its catalog of originals. There's more schlock, which is very noticeable, and, compared to pre-Netflix-streaming outputs of places like HBO, also more solid original films. But 99% of everything is crap, so if the only way you have to engage with the Netflix catalog is browsing their interface, that's most of what you're going to see.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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> Oh help me! Oh, help me! My life is in danger! > Oh help me! Oh, help me! My life is in danger! > The venomous monster is drawing upon me > And I can’t escape him. > How near is his bite, > With teeth sharp and white! > Oh gods above! > Why can’t you hear my mortal cry? > Destroy the beast or I will die! > Or surely, I will die! The opening lines to The Magic Flute (which continues in a similarly expository tone fo…

Really enjoy this curveball you threw, casts this whole conversation in a new light doesn't it?

It is true that a lot of old plays, operas etc do exactly what Netflix is accused of here. What is a monologue? Was Shakespeare guilty of creating casual viewing content when he wrote Hamlet's monologue? Shouldn't he have just showed Hamlet's ambivalence???

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

#294

This article is a fascinating explication of the core reason that, without any respect paid to my millennial nostalgia at all, we need to preserve the physical cinema. The digital "attention economy" introduces such immense layers of abstraction between the audience and the business that none of us should feel confident that it will allow us to express our tastes for entertainment with anything close to intentionalit…

I remember going to the physical cinema one day to see "Air". I didn't think the movie was that great, and I wonder if the "Amazon Studios" logo at the beginning made me more critical.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

#295

This article is a fascinating explication of the core reason that, without any respect paid to my millennial nostalgia at all, we need to preserve the physical cinema. The digital "attention economy" introduces such immense layers of abstraction between the audience and the business that none of us should feel confident that it will allow us to express our tastes for entertainment with anything close to intentionalit…

In my experience, when technology advances, and the original thing to be replaced still holds some value, it doesn't continue existing as such, it may survive binging on momentum, habits or nostalgia. But then it splits, the useless aspect discarded and the useful merged with other old and new fragments, in combinations tried by the experimental startup ecosystem. In the end we may have for example entertainment venu…

One nice thing about the movie theater, is that nobody can pull up her phone in the middle and start scrolling through stuff. And then we have to rewind later. Not pointing fingers here. :)

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what you mean by families, but I would be willing to bet that most families today already let their children watch more YouTube family content than Netflix content. And I do believe Netflix introduced a cheaper ad tier recently?

Every parent I know forbids Youtube, for obvious reasons. Even the content on the Kids service is utter crap (I know several who tried the service and dropped it.)

It’s really hard to (really truly) ban YouTube and not ban any search engine.

You might find your child spending 2 hours a day on ddg.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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I was just wondering a bit about this. I read some of your comments here and, as I sometimes do, writing and discarding before submitting my response. But it just occurred to me... Maybe Netflix should do half-movies next. The movie is designed to be appealing on the menu, to have a good but not too engrossing first 30 minutes, and then start ramping down the budget drastically for the remaining of the film, which -i…

sounds like the nonsense at the end of 2001.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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It’s just slop par excellence. I’ve been watching a number of movies with my wife over Christmas. Everything is so bland, repetitive and ‘design by committee’. It goes further than merely announcing what the characters are doing (in that new wannabe Die Hard movie we hear that they are expecting a baby three times in 5 minutes), you just know there are certain metrics used for every genre of movie accounting for ever…

What I hate is that the slop killed the netflix DVD service, where I used to get the "real" movies to watch.

It sort of feels like living in a town that is getting crowded and the infrastructure isn't being maintained. Then one day they decide to change all the traffic lights to stop signs and everyone goes the same slow speed.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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Nowadays, whenever I browse Netflix, I feel like that Bruce Springsteen song, "57 Channels (And Nothin' On)."[a] Sure, there are lots of choices, but they all kinda suck . I find myself wondering, why? The OP weaves an insightful, opinionated narrative that explains how we got here. Much of it rings true. This passage, in particular struck a chord with me: > Several screenwriters who’ve worked for the streamer told m…

The reality is the average person's time to watch TV/unwind is also going to be spent doing chores. This was always the case. When I was a kid, we watched shows that could be followed along by whoever was cooking dinner/doing dishes as well as the people sitting in front of the set. People don't have all that much extra free time. Movies were an experience because... they were an experience. They weren't constantly o…

It’s very true this drives watch time, but I doubt it drives subscriptions.

My guess is some internal metrics favor watch time over quality and is just quietly killing their business.

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