On a tangential topic, I'm surprised Waymo don't self-insure. Is there an advantage to Waymo of outsourcing insurance? Is it a legal thing?
A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
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Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Still own a car because in many cases you can't beat convenience What about the places where people own cars not because it is the better choice, but the only choice?
Then self driving vehicles will be a new choice.
or it won't like how uber etc at least here only operate in cities, and not where people actually really need cards.
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
That sounds great for Waymo: I'd love to experience a ride in one and I'll make sure to catch a ride next time I am in CA. I wonder what it does in common situations, like stop-and-go traffic with two streets joining at an angle, where one has to yield? In that case, if everyone simply followed the rules, the cars in the yielding street would never get through. While I am passive-aggressive myself as a driver, I reli…
> I wonder what it does in common situations, like stop-and-go traffic with two streets joining at an angle, where one has to yield? Plan a better route? I can’t picture the situation you describe. Yielding traffic just… yields. When there’s an opening they take it. On my ride the Waymo took a right turn on red. How is the situation you describe different? Do you still yield unnecessarily when there are cars behind y…
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Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was just in CA for a few weeks and drove in SF quite a bit. There are Waymo cars everywhere and from the perspective of a driver I was more than a little cautious driving behind or next to one of them. I would rate their driving as quite good, but their signaling of intent was terrible. More than once did I see them use turn signals, only to never actually turn. Turn the signals on, then off again, then on again, e…
I think that as a pedestrian it would be hard for me to get used to. I like to look at the eyes of the driver to make sure they can see me.
In the future we’ll tell our kids, “try to make eye contact with the driver’s sensors before crossing the street”
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
> its development still took millions of dollars in R&D $1mm at the time, $10mm today. They sold for the equivalent of $30 each in today's money and saved manned spaceflight from having to deal with graphite shards in the air and electrical. > car dependency is not the same as car usage "If the richest country in the world" got "rid of its car dependency," we'd still want safer cars.
> we'd still want safer cars With the technology controlled by a handful of corporations? At an development cost that will force them to create any and every opportunity to seek rent on your mobility?
Isn't that already the status quo?
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#296Ah, but can they do it on a cold, rainy night in Stoke?
I certainly hope so, and soon. I hate driving. Micro-managing a 1 ton machine where any slip-up could kill someone.
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#297Did the paper really prove its claim? It set aside more than half of Waymo's claims history and compared only the most recent portion of its own history to the all drivers benchmark. All drivers do things that Waymo doesn't like operate outside specific city centers, drive in snow or other severe weather, real people drive more during the day in traffic but Waymo is biased toward nighttime (less traffic), and real pe…
why should DUIs be excluded? There are regular human drivers out there at various levels of intoxication. I do want to know waymo vs all population. But yes it should be compared in the same areas during the same period.
Maybe DUI's should be included, but a paper drawing the conclusion that "Waymo is safer because its computer drivers aren't drunk" suggests very different policy actions.
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#298I rode in a Waymo recently and was amazed at how good it was. It was easily in the top 5 best drivers I have ridden with. Really really impressive. It wasn’t nearly as cautious or timid as I expected it to be. But it also wasn’t reckless. I would describe it as assertive, but I’m sure some people would call it aggressive. It knows the rules and what’s going on around and acts accordingly. This really should be the no…
But does this absolve Google for killing Reader?
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was just in CA for a few weeks and drove in SF quite a bit. There are Waymo cars everywhere and from the perspective of a driver I was more than a little cautious driving behind or next to one of them. I would rate their driving as quite good, but their signaling of intent was terrible. More than once did I see them use turn signals, only to never actually turn. Turn the signals on, then off again, then on again, e…
I think that as a pedestrian it would be hard for me to get used to. I like to look at the eyes of the driver to make sure they can see me.
I get what you are saying. However where I live in Florida, drivers are so pedestrian blind and oblivious that they’ll run you down right in the middle of the crosswalk while playing on their phone. Friend of a friend was just killed as a pedestrian a week ago. Bring on the robodrivers!
Re: A comparison to Waymo’s auto liability insurance claims at 25M miles
#300Did the paper really prove its claim? It set aside more than half of Waymo's claims history and compared only the most recent portion of its own history to the all drivers benchmark. All drivers do things that Waymo doesn't like operate outside specific city centers, drive in snow or other severe weather, real people drive more during the day in traffic but Waymo is biased toward nighttime (less traffic), and real pe…
> It set aside more than half of Waymo's claims history and compared only the most recent portion of its own history
I don't see where the paper says this. Also, it compared against not only all drivers but also a subset of "latest generation HDVs."